Attack speed in numbers and precentage

LmmcDarkY

New Member
Reaction score
1
I've noticed that there is two type of attack speed. For example there is item which increases attack speed by 50 and item which increases it by 20%

I would like to know what is diffrence between thoose values.
 

Avaleirra

Is back. Probably.
Reaction score
128
The percentage increases attack speed by a percentage (duh, lol)

so..... 100 + 20% = 120

The value increases it by a flat out value

so..... 100 + 50 = 150
 

Avaleirra

Is back. Probably.
Reaction score
128
Ya
90 + 10% = 99
90 + 10 = 100

what do you mean by the thing at the bottom of the post?
 

LmmcDarkY

New Member
Reaction score
1
I just want to know what those numbers mean as attack speed if it's 50 then it is 0.5 seconds or what ?
 

Nenad

~Choco Coronet~ Omnomnom
Reaction score
137
I believe it to be like this (regarding the complete lack of other options):

We have a hero with base attack cooldown (speed that is) of 2.

That means 1 attack per 2 seconds.

Now, applying a 50% modifier to this would yield: 2*0.5=1.

That means 1 attack per second.

Now, applying a 50 modifier (flat rate) to this would yield: 2-0.5=1.5

That means 0.75 attacks per second.

Flat rate is useful the lower the Base attack speed of the hero is, following the diminishing returns of the AS%. If you have a hero with 1 base attack speed you will gain the same with 50 flat rate or 50% as. I have no idea how it would work for more than that, if it would be 0 at some point.

AS% works better with slower attacking heroes. Max attack speed is 400% meaning 4x the normal attack speed.

I don't have any other explanation, as flat rate is not used in WC3 as often. I assume it would be like this ^^
 

Nenad

~Choco Coronet~ Omnomnom
Reaction score
137
Ack! My previous comment is no good >.< (as far as attack speed % goes)

50% attack speed doesn't work like that (scales differently)

I believe flat rate works the same, but AS would work like this:

1 second base cooldown. +50% attack speed = 1+1/2 attacks per second.
1 second base cooldown. +100% attack speed = 2 attacks per second or 0.5! I was wrong >.<

400% attack speed on a 1 second base would be = 4 attacks per second or 0.25 base cooldown. I think the flat rate is still as i explained it before, since i see no other logical solution ^^
 
General chit-chat
Help Users
  • No one is chatting at the moment.
  • Ghan Ghan:
    Still lurking
    +3
  • The Helper The Helper:
    I am great and it is fantastic to see you my friend!
    +1
  • The Helper The Helper:
    If you are new to the site please check out the Recipe and Food Forum https://www.thehelper.net/forums/recipes-and-food.220/
  • Monovertex Monovertex:
    How come you're so into recipes lately? Never saw this much interest in this topic in the old days of TH.net
  • Monovertex Monovertex:
    Hmm, how do I change my signature?
  • tom_mai78101 tom_mai78101:
    Signatures can be edit in your account profile. As for the old stuffs, I'm thinking it's because Blizzard is now under Microsoft, and because of Microsoft Xbox going the way it is, it's dreadful.
  • The Helper The Helper:
    I am not big on the recipes I am just promoting them - I use the site as a practice place promoting stuff
    +2
  • Monovertex Monovertex:
    @tom_mai78101 I must be blind. If I go on my profile I don't see any area to edit the signature; If I go to account details (settings) I don't see any signature area either.
  • The Helper The Helper:
    You can get there if you click the bell icon (alerts) and choose preferences from the bottom, signature will be in the menu on the left there https://www.thehelper.net/account/preferences
  • The Helper The Helper:
    I think I need to split the Sci/Tech news forum into 2 one for Science and one for Tech but I am hating all the moving of posts I would have to do
  • The Helper The Helper:
    What is up Old Mountain Shadow?
  • The Helper The Helper:
    Happy Thursday!
    +1
  • Varine Varine:
    Crazy how much 3d printing has come in the last few years. Sad that it's not as easily modifiable though
  • Varine Varine:
    I bought an Ender 3 during the pandemic and tinkered with it all the time. Just bought a Sovol, not as easy. I'm trying to make it use a different nozzle because I have a fuck ton of Volcanos, and they use what is basically a modified volcano that is just a smidge longer, and almost every part on this thing needs to be redone to make it work
  • Varine Varine:
    Luckily I have a 3d printer for that, I guess. But it's ridiculous. The regular volcanos are 21mm, these Sovol versions are about 23.5mm
  • Varine Varine:
    So, 2.5mm longer. But the thing that measures the bed is about 1.5mm above the nozzle, so if I swap it with a volcano then I'm 1mm behind it. So cool, new bracket to swap that, but THEN the fan shroud to direct air at the part is ALSO going to be .5mm to low, and so I need to redo that, but by doing that it is a little bit off where it should be blowing and it's throwing it at the heating block instead of the part, and fuck man
  • Varine Varine:
    I didn't realize they designed this entire thing to NOT be modded. I would have just got a fucking Bambu if I knew that, the whole point was I could fuck with this. And no one else makes shit for Sovol so I have to go through them, and they have... interesting pricing models. So I have a new extruder altogether that I'm taking apart and going to just design a whole new one to use my nozzles. Dumb design.
  • Varine Varine:
    Can't just buy a new heatblock, you need to get a whole hotend - so block, heater cartridge, thermistor, heatbreak, and nozzle. And they put this fucking paste in there so I can't take the thermistor or cartridge out with any ease, that's 30 dollars. Or you can get the whole extrudor with the direct driver AND that heatblock for like 50, but you still can't get any of it to come apart
  • Varine Varine:
    Partsbuilt has individual parts I found but they're expensive. I think I can get bits swapped around and make this work with generic shit though
  • Ghan Ghan:
    Heard Houston got hit pretty bad by storms last night. Hope all is well with TH.
  • The Helper The Helper:
    Power back on finally - all is good here no damage
    +2
  • V-SNES V-SNES:
    Happy Friday!
    +1
  • The Helper The Helper:
    New recipe is another summer dessert Berry and Peach Cheesecake - https://www.thehelper.net/threads/recipe-berry-and-peach-cheesecake.194169/

      The Helper Discord

      Members online

      Affiliates

      Hive Workshop NUON Dome World Editor Tutorials

      Network Sponsors

      Apex Steel Pipe - Buys and sells Steel Pipe.
      Top