Auto cast knock back

[kingkwong92]

Could someone link me to how to detect when a spell is in autocast?

I'm trying to back a autocast spell that gives you bash.

 

[jig7c]

• ability
  • events
    • a unit starts the effect of an ability
  • conditions
    • ability being cast equal to (bloodlust)
  • actions
    • set Bloodlust = True (boolean variable)

• ability
  • events
    • a unit stops the effect of an ability
  • conditions
    • ability being cast equal to (bloodlust)
  • actions
    • set Bloodlust = False

 

[Psiblade94122]

base the spell off black arrows with a .01 duration and no spawns or extra damage

Detect damage and detect if the triggering unit (damaged unit) has the buff you put for black arrows

If it has the buff then proceed with whatever you want to do

 

[avalya]

The shortest buff duration is 0.27 seconds though, base it on either Cold Arrows or Black Arrows, when damage is dealt, and the target has the Cold Arrow or Black Arrow buff, then turn off the trigger, remove the buff and go on with the triggers, at the end of it, turn the trigger on again.

 

[Nighthawk]

I'm looking at the trigger editor right now and there does not appear to be a function which can tell when an auto-attack ability is turned on and off (only when it is trigger, such as when a spell like black arrow fires).

If the above posts did not help you, then post more a detailed description of the auto-cast spell and we might be able to find a way to work around it.

 

[avalya]

Forgot to specify; use a damage detection system, GDD is an easy one for GUI users.

 

[kingkwong92]

@ jig7c
I don't think your method would work.


@Psiblade94122
Good idea but I didn't really want a buff to show up if avalya is correct.

@avalya
How do you know the shortest buff is 0.27? Has this been tested?

@Nighthawk
I simply want an autocast spell that gives a knockback. I might try the black arrows idea. I will just make the buff look like my knockback buff. I hope it doesn't look to weird with a buff showing up, disappearing and then showing up again.

 

[avalya]

0.27 is the shortest wait time in WC3, this is also the shortest duration you can set buffs and abilities to. If you want something to run faster, and not instantaneously, you need to use a timer, at least in GUI.

If you make the idea that I suggested then the buff will not be noticeably shown, since it is removed the fraction of the second the damage is dealt, and the same fraction that the buff is applied in the first place, thus making the buff not show, at all.

 

[kingkwong92]

Has this 0.27 been tested?

EDIT!! Just tested. I got a buff to last the 0.01 seconds I wanted.
@avalya Just where are you getting these numbers from because they're not true.

EDIT!! You can't even see the buff in 0.01 seconds. This works good for what I need.

 

[HydraRancher]

Has this 0.27 been tested?

EDIT!! Just tested. I got a buff to last the 0.01 seconds I wanted.
@avalya Just where are you getting these numbers from because they're not true.

EDIT!! You can't even see the buff in 0.01 seconds. This works good for what I need.

Erm...How do you know it lasted 0.01?


The numbers are true.....
The 0.01 is a lie....

 

[kingkwong92]

• Test1
  • Events
    • Time - Every 0.01 seconds of game time
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Dummy <gen> has buff Acid Bomb) Equal to True
      • Then - Actions
        • Set test = (test + 0.01)
      • Else - Actions
    • Game - Display to (All players) the text: (String(test))

• Test2
  • Events
    • Unit - Dummy 0000 <gen> Takes damage
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • ((Triggering unit) has buff Acid Bomb) Equal to True
      • Then - Actions
        • Game - Display to (All players) the text: Has buff
      • Else - Actions
    • Trigger - Turn off Test1 <gen>

I did this test and it showed up as 0.01

 

[Darthfett]

I did this test and it showed up as 0.01

It's possible work with real numbers below 0.27, the number is just a limitation of the Wait action. Periodic Events and timers do not have this limitation. I have never heard of buffs being affected by the limitation.

The actual 'minimum' wait time is not consistent, but 0.27 is a rough average of the minimum amount of time you can wait. There were strange results from the test I saw, and even stranger for using 0.00 and negative numbers for waits.

Could someone link me to how to detect when a spell is in autocast?

I'm trying to back a autocast spell that gives you bash.

All you have to do is detect when the unit is issued an order. If that order is ___on, it is being enabled. If it is ___off, it is being disabled. For example, healon is what happens when the unit turns autocast for the heal spell on. Not every spell has this possibility, however. Check the spell under Text - Order String - Activate and Text - Order String - Deactivate.

 

[Nenad]

• Test1
  • Events
    • Time - Every 0.01 seconds of game time
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Dummy <gen> has buff Acid Bomb) Equal to True
      • Then - Actions
        • Set test = (test + 0.01)
      • Else - Actions
    • Game - Display to (All players) the text: (String(test))

• Test2
  • Events
    • Unit - Dummy 0000 <gen> Takes damage
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • ((Triggering unit) has buff Acid Bomb) Equal to True
      • Then - Actions
        • Game - Display to (All players) the text: Has buff
      • Else - Actions
    • Trigger - Turn off Test1 <gen>

I did this test and it showed up as 0.01

I don't think this will work if you try any actions and orders, but try it. I never had good experience with less then 0.3 second waits and periodic events, usually there is some workaround, or that spell may already exist in JASS so you can search the website ^^

 

[kingkwong92]

I can't believe I didn't think about that. Thanks a bunch.
Your rep says you've been here too long.

 

[avalya]

The test you made used a timer, and not waits, which was not what I was talking about. On waits and buff durations you can't go with any less than 0.27 seconds, that's why so-called 'mini-stuns' exists and are not only 'stops casting'.

 

[kingkwong92]

Sorry.
I still don't get what you mean but I have solved the problem.
Thanks anyway.

 

[avalya]

Wow dude, you're giving me -rep for suggestions and facts that you cannot comprehend... really wow.

 

[kingkwong92]

Well it doesn't let me add rep now. Sorry