Muscle Or Excess Fat Goes First?

hell_knight

Playing WoW
Reaction score
126
Well should I boost my metabolism to burn pounds then?

Way I'm seeing it is if I undeeat I become weak.
and I've heard that HIIT ( ex , sprint intervals ) boosts your metabolism a lot more than cardio.
 

emjlr3

Change can be a good thing
Reaction score
395
HIIT is cardio....

you become weak when you under eat because your body does not have the calories to keep building musclse, and since muscle goes first, thats where you body is going to take it form to keep up your metabolic needs

you really need to try and force your body, as I said before, to think that building muscle is more worthwhile then maintaining fat stores

this can, to an extent, be accomplished by lifting hard and heavy while cutting, while trying to stay as anabolic as possible
 

hell_knight

Playing WoW
Reaction score
126
I dont really get the definition of anabolic , is it a type of exercise? Or a heart rate zone?

Please explain.
 
Reaction score
333
I dont really get the definition of anabolic , is it a type of exercise? Or a heart rate zone?

Please explain.

As far as I know..

Anabolism:
Larger molecules such as proteins, fats being constructed from smaller molecules at the cost of energy.​
Catabolism:
Larger molecules such as proteins, fats being broken down into smaller molecules for energy, etc.​
 

hell_knight

Playing WoW
Reaction score
126
Alright then.

Diet questions.

What nutrition am I aiming for and what should I stay away from.
Should my diet be low carbs , or high protein if Im going to be "anabolic" as possible.

Better idea , whats your diet the hulk lol
 

emjlr3

Change can be a good thing
Reaction score
395
bulking, cutting or maintaining?
 

emjlr3

Change can be a good thing
Reaction score
395
there are a number of different approaches you can take to cutting - I have a way that seems to work well for me, and does not require the absurd carb cycling and/or depletion/refeeding that a lot of other "hardcore" cutting diets do

do you want the skinny of it, or the long winded version?
 

emjlr3

Change can be a good thing
Reaction score
395
alright - ommiting the theory/chemistry/biology behind my scheme, for the sake of time and my sanity:

My basic cutting diet consists of two different caloriic intake days.

I start off by going 1-2 week at what I would consider my maintnance - weight myself everyday, same conditions, and track my gain/loss to try and determine my actual maint.

Now once we have that figured I can begin with the cut

The two days will be one for on/HIIT and one for off.

Our on day will be at a 5-10% deficit, while our off day will be at a 10-15% deficit. We can also think of this as a 250 under or 500 under days. I would not want to under 500 calories below maint - that would be bad and further force our bodies into a catabolic state, which we dont want.

Our 500 day should be higher in fiberous carbs(green veggies) and our 250 day should be higher in strachy carbs(white stuff). Meals, for the most part, consist of as much food as you can stuf into your face, while not going over your intended caloric total for the day(we want to be as close as possible to it however).

P=protein source, F = fat source, Fi = fibrous carb soruce, S = starchy carb source
Suggested 250 day:
meal 1 - P+F+Fi
meal 2 - P+F+Fi+S
meal 3 - P+Fi+S
gym
post WO shake - whey+dextrose
meal 4 - P+Fi+S
meal 5 - P+F+Fi+S
meal 6 - P+F+Fi

a 500 day would be similar - the post wo shake, with less starchy carbs, and mroe fiberous carbs substituded in their place

our PWO shake consist of a fast absorbing protein (whey) and a high GI carb(dextrose) to illicit a quick insulin(insulin is extremely anabolic-and its free) response and get nutrients into our muscles ASAP

if you start getting hungrier, add more fiberous carbs - they are low calorie and can be filling in large quantities (heh)

Such are the basics of my cutting diet - I usually do a 4 day split with this, with some HIIT thrown in - but that is another story all together

you may have to adust your calorie needs as your bw changes or your meta. slows

the forcing your body to be anabolic comes a lot from how you lift - but again, thats more writing :)

supps - I often go with an ECA stack, not to increase the speed of my weight loss, but to give myself and overall good feeling throughout the day, keep my energy up, and to allow myself to eat more food on the cut :)

weight loss of 1-2 lbs/week at max

:)
 

Whitesock

Graphics Help Zone Moderator
Reaction score
358
You guys know that muscles require energy and that building muscle will increase your basal metabolism and cause you to lose more fat right?

Fat = energy storage. Muscle does not equal a glob of energy until your fat is depleted.

Listen to the hulk, he knows what he is talking about.
 
General chit-chat
Help Users
  • No one is chatting at the moment.
  • Monovertex Monovertex:
    How are you all? :D
    +1
  • Ghan Ghan:
    Howdy
  • Ghan Ghan:
    Still lurking
    +3
  • The Helper The Helper:
    I am great and it is fantastic to see you my friend!
    +1
  • The Helper The Helper:
    If you are new to the site please check out the Recipe and Food Forum https://www.thehelper.net/forums/recipes-and-food.220/
  • Monovertex Monovertex:
    How come you're so into recipes lately? Never saw this much interest in this topic in the old days of TH.net
  • Monovertex Monovertex:
    Hmm, how do I change my signature?
  • tom_mai78101 tom_mai78101:
    Signatures can be edit in your account profile. As for the old stuffs, I'm thinking it's because Blizzard is now under Microsoft, and because of Microsoft Xbox going the way it is, it's dreadful.
  • The Helper The Helper:
    I am not big on the recipes I am just promoting them - I use the site as a practice place promoting stuff
    +2
  • Monovertex Monovertex:
    @tom_mai78101 I must be blind. If I go on my profile I don't see any area to edit the signature; If I go to account details (settings) I don't see any signature area either.
  • The Helper The Helper:
    You can get there if you click the bell icon (alerts) and choose preferences from the bottom, signature will be in the menu on the left there https://www.thehelper.net/account/preferences
  • The Helper The Helper:
    I think I need to split the Sci/Tech news forum into 2 one for Science and one for Tech but I am hating all the moving of posts I would have to do
  • The Helper The Helper:
    What is up Old Mountain Shadow?
  • The Helper The Helper:
    Happy Thursday!
    +1
  • Varine Varine:
    Crazy how much 3d printing has come in the last few years. Sad that it's not as easily modifiable though
  • Varine Varine:
    I bought an Ender 3 during the pandemic and tinkered with it all the time. Just bought a Sovol, not as easy. I'm trying to make it use a different nozzle because I have a fuck ton of Volcanos, and they use what is basically a modified volcano that is just a smidge longer, and almost every part on this thing needs to be redone to make it work
  • Varine Varine:
    Luckily I have a 3d printer for that, I guess. But it's ridiculous. The regular volcanos are 21mm, these Sovol versions are about 23.5mm
  • Varine Varine:
    So, 2.5mm longer. But the thing that measures the bed is about 1.5mm above the nozzle, so if I swap it with a volcano then I'm 1mm behind it. So cool, new bracket to swap that, but THEN the fan shroud to direct air at the part is ALSO going to be .5mm to low, and so I need to redo that, but by doing that it is a little bit off where it should be blowing and it's throwing it at the heating block instead of the part, and fuck man
  • Varine Varine:
    I didn't realize they designed this entire thing to NOT be modded. I would have just got a fucking Bambu if I knew that, the whole point was I could fuck with this. And no one else makes shit for Sovol so I have to go through them, and they have... interesting pricing models. So I have a new extruder altogether that I'm taking apart and going to just design a whole new one to use my nozzles. Dumb design.
  • Varine Varine:
    Can't just buy a new heatblock, you need to get a whole hotend - so block, heater cartridge, thermistor, heatbreak, and nozzle. And they put this fucking paste in there so I can't take the thermistor or cartridge out with any ease, that's 30 dollars. Or you can get the whole extrudor with the direct driver AND that heatblock for like 50, but you still can't get any of it to come apart
  • Varine Varine:
    Partsbuilt has individual parts I found but they're expensive. I think I can get bits swapped around and make this work with generic shit though

      The Helper Discord

      Members online

      No members online now.

      Affiliates

      Hive Workshop NUON Dome World Editor Tutorials

      Network Sponsors

      Apex Steel Pipe - Buys and sells Steel Pipe.
      Top