Normal Attack = Knockback, How?

[Lyserg]

Hi. Well, I wanted to make normal attack do a knockback (for unit owned by player and also creeps) , so I tried to do it like this:

Events:

-Map Initialization


Conditions:

-


Actions:

Set Attacker = (Attacking unit)

Set AttackedOne = (Attacked unit)

Set PointOfAttacker = (Attacker)

And then

Events:

Unit - A unit is attacked


Conditions:

(Attacked Unit) equal to AttackedOne


Actions:

Special Effect - Create a special effect attached to the origin of AttackedOne using Objects\Spawnmodels\Undead\ImpaleTargetDust\ImpaleTargetDust.mdl

Unit - Move AttackedOne instantly to (PointOfAttacker offset by ((Distance between PointOfAttacker and (Position Of AttackedOne)) + 5.00) towards (Angle from PointOfAttacker to (Position of AttackedOne)) degrees)

Well, that's that, its not working nor did i expect it to work, im new at this, but could you help me to make it work? tnx in advance ^_^

 

[BlackRose]

There is no value in AttackedOne because you set it at Initiatlization.... so therefore it doesn't do anything, null unit.

 

[Lyserg]

So, i should just set it to be Time - Time Elapsed action or? What should I do to make it work?

 

[BlackRose]

Well, what what are you doing? Is it a skill? Is it chance? Like Bash, (if not, you would probably kill anything easily 1 on 1).

 

[Lyserg]

Actually, i want every attack to do it...i always thought its dumb that units are just standing in one spot and pwning each other...there should always be a little knock back, like when u punch someone in the face and that person gets knocked back...its actually for an rpg map, i want combat to be fast and fun, not just stand in one spot and attack and as I said, its not just for players, creeps would knock back too...knock back gives a feeling that battle is really happening, makes it alive...i considered doing it as a critical, but i first want to see how will it work like this...

 

[BlackRose]

Notes:
+Unit is Attacked, it happens before they even take damage.
+That would be hard to do, every thing knockback. Warcraft III is not like that.

 

[Lyserg]

I guess i'll do it as a critical then... :|

EDIT:
Just tell me, since critical strike is passive, i can't really do condition as "Ability being cast equal to critical strike" right? so...how should I do it?

 

[k0sA]

Put your first functions to the beginning of the second function

Set Attacker = (Attacking unit)

Set AttackedOne = (Attacked unit)

Set PointOfAttacker = (Attacker)

Special Effect - Create a special effect attached to the origin of AttackedOne using Objects\Spawnmodels\Undead\ImpaleTargetDust\ImpaleTargetDust.mdl

Unit - Move AttackedOne instantly to (PointOfAttacker offset by ((Distance between PointOfAttacker and (Position Of AttackedOne)) + 5.00) towards (Angle from PointOfAttacker to (Position of AttackedOne)) degrees

 

[Lyserg]

Oook, it works now, BUT its totally different than i imagined...its like they're switching places, warping...i don't know. I attached the map, download and see for yourself...

 

[Charapanga]

Events
A unit is attacked
Conditions NONE
Actions
Set attacked one = Attacked unit
Set attacking one = attacking unit
Set attacked one point = position of Attacked one
Set attacking one point = position of attacking one
turn on trigger 2
wait 1 second
turn off trigger 2

Trigger 2...

event
Every 0.03 seconds 
Conditions none
actions move attacked one instantly to attacked one point offset by -5 towards angle between attacked one point and attacking one point degrees

it's freehand, just do triggers like this and you'll be fine

EDIT: Trigger 2 should be initially off

 

[demotry241]

this requires a slide.

 

[Charapanga]

this requires a slide.

My trigger is slide...

 

[Lyserg]

Much better now, but still it doesn't really knock him back, it moves him back instantly just as the action says...is there any way to do a sliding knockback...? if you know what I mean, if not, how could i do it for a critical strike, I tried with event: skill is being casted, condition: skill being cast equal to critical strike, and then the knock back triggers for actions, but its not working at all, sorry for the trouble :|

EDIT: ah, i see you mentioned slide while i was posting. No, it doesn't slide, it just teleports him back...it looks cool, but it would be MUCH better with actual sliding...

 

[Samael88]

Do you want it so that the unit has an item to be able to nockback?
Should it only affect one type of unit?
Should it only affect a single unit?
Should it be only on normal attack?
Give correct and specific answers for this and I will alter my premade really simple nockback to fit you need:thup:

Edit:

actions move attacked one instantly to attacked one point offset by [B]-5[/B] towards angle between attacked one point and attacking one point degrees

That will move him backwards for 5 distance.
This may work better:

actions move attacked one instantly to attacked one point offset by [B]5[/B] towards angle between [B]attacking one[/B] point and [B]attacked one[/B] point degrees

 

[Charapanga]

EDIT: Did the trigger, works great, try it out...
Attached...

 

[Lyserg]

Hm, yeah, it sure is sliding, I tried your tirgger you wrote on post before, but its not sliding for a normal attack, maybe I did something wrong, I uploaded now with this what i've did...so can you please check it out and fix the mistakes so that sliding works? :x

 

[Charapanga]

Check page one last post...attached map...

 

[Lyserg]

Amazing! Exactly what I wanted, tnx! :3 just a quick question, is there a way to get rid of stopping of unit when its attacked and knocked back? im sure you noticed that :]

 

[Charapanga]

Amazing! Exactly what I wanted, tnx! :3 just a quick question, is there a way to get rid of stopping of unit when its attacked and knocked back? im sure you noticed that :]

Whenever it's forcefully moving it's animation is stopping and since he is taking time to swing and his animation is stopping every 0.03 seconds he will never finish the swing, it's either slide or warp, both have same effect on attacks...

 

[Lyserg]

I see. Well, thanks a lots, this is great, wanted to show you, but don't want to upload anymore, make an illidan your hero and change his attack speed to max, leave that other blue footman, start the map and start pwning footman, it looks so amazing! I guess it will all be about speed in my map, i'll have to add some special skill for avoiding range attacks, only for melee heroes. Also don't forget to add the dust effect to origin...its so awesome now.