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[FireCat]

actually, there's a lot of statistics that indicate that addiction

Statistics aren't anywhere close to correct! It Just looks good on paper only!
Just saying.

 

[Slapshot136]

Statistics aren't anywhere close to correct! It Just looks good on paper only!
Just saying.

normally we take statistics over word-of-mouth, especially if you don't have any reasons as to why those statistics would be incorrect, or why your opinion would be

 

[FireCat]

normally we take statistics

Charles Seife’s forthcoming book Proofiness: The Dark Arts of Mathematical Deception lays bare, in remarkable clarity, the many trappings of trusting numbers a bit too much. While people are usually adept at recognizing numbers that are blatantly false, such as “85% of statistics are false or misleading”, more subtle manufactured numbers can have a dramatic effect on public opinion. Seife’s most oft-cited example of this phenomenon is the 205 suspected communists Joe McCarthy claimed were working in the US State Department, effectively sparking the Red Scare. While his list was never released, the unverifiable “205 communists” were enough to make an obscure junior senator from Wisconsin one of the most divisive politicians of the twentieth century.

And you see for your self, there's a hell of a Lot of false statistics out there.

 

[Slapshot136]

And you see for your self, there's a hell of a Lot of false statistics out there.

yes - but guess what, there are tons more of unfounded, wrong, opinions on the internet

 

[FireCat]

yes - but guess what, there are tons more of unfounded, wrong, opinions on the internet

Well, of course there is. What can we do about that?

 

[Slapshot136]

Well, of course there is. What can we do about that?

start by disregarding any without logic/proof/reputation/etc.

 

[FireCat]

start by

That depends on what kind of type/ news etc.. it is.

 

[Varine]

No, it doesn't.

 

[FireCat]

No, it doesn't.

Yes, it does

Ah, damn you! ... Accname "See what you`ve done"
My A.V.A being hijacked again!!

Hmm @Slapshot136

 

[Accname]

Yes, it does

Ah, damn you! ... Accname "See what you`ve done"
My A.V.A being hijacked again!!

Hmm @Slapshot136

ITS LOOK LIKE FIRECAT WEEEK!!!!!11111111ONEONEONEONE

 

[FireCat]

WEEEK!!

Holy crap a week ? It was Just a day and "now the day is over"!
Hmm why not a "helper" day? lol

 

[Varine]

It's not until Tuesday.

 

[Zakyath]

So if I join the military and don't leave the country I'm not supporting war?

If there's some form you can fill in which states that you are under no circumstances to be shipped off or contribute to the war.

that's a problem with the government - it's not perfect (in this case some governments like that of the U.S. I wouldn't even consider "good"), but that doesn't have much to do with the army

excuse me, what? was that a response to what I wrote?

a deterrent is only useful if it will actually be used if/when it needs to be

Your point being?

pretty sure that it's illegal to discriminate against customers.. and it's not exactly a smart move to piss off the army/military in most countries - not to mention lots of industries depend on them

in a free and open country I am allowed to sell whatever I wish to whomever I wish. The US isn't a free and open country. You shouldn't refer to the laws of such a country, when discussing what is right/wrong.

 

[Zakyath]

And you see for your self, there's a hell of a Lot of false statistics out there.

Statistic can be misleading. But they very seldom lie.

 

[FireCat]

But they very seldom lie.

Nah I don't agree! If a statistic doesn't represent real events etc... it's not a real statistic! So "Most of Statistics" are Just Lies.

 

[Zakyath]

Nah I don't agree! If a statistic doesn't represent real events etc... it's not a real statistic! So "Most of Statistics" are Just Lies.

They most often do represent real events, it's the conclusions that are drawn from them that are a bit sketchy at times.

 

[FireCat]

Well, I wouldn't trust any statistical analysis crap.

 

[Zakyath]

Let me tell you a story.

Sometime roughly 150 years ago it was commonly believed that pneumonia was caused by some kind of imbalance within the bodily fluids. To cure the pneumonia, it was therefore believed, the balance had to be restored.

Some thought that the best method was bloodletting. Some thought that the best method was a vomit therapy - the patient should just vomit as much as possible.

Then Joseph Dietl came along. 1849 he did a statistical and empirical study. He had a group of patiens with pneumonia who were treated with bloodletting, 20.4% died. He also had a group which were treated with the vomit therapy, 20,7% died. This far it seemed like both treatments were equal. But Dietl also had a group of pneumonia patients who weren't given any specific treatment, other than general care. In this group 7,4% died.

This was however not taken well by the doctors of those days. Dietl lost his job, since he questioned those of high status. And many people died because of their stubbornness.

Today, statistics is widely accepted across the world by scientists, so we don't have that kind of problem anymore. But in the political world, it's still the same kind of superstitions that roam. Decriminalization has been proven, in very much the same manner, to save lives. But you discard it, just because it's statistics... I think what that says the most about is you.

 

[FireCat]

Whenever you read a news article about official government employment statistics, remember one thing: It's almost certainly wrong. This isn't because the reporter messed up but because the more accurate numbers won't come out for weeks or months. Nonetheless, the markets always move in response to these reports. Here's what you need to know so you don't make the mistake the markets do.

In the report released last week, the Labor Department said applications for jobless benefits in the week ended March 31 decreased 6,000 to a seasonally adjusted 357,000. The headlines rang out telling us this was the lowest level in nearly four years and U.S. stocks got a very a brief boost. This was the second week in a row that jobless claims were reported to have hit a post-crisis low. Certainly that seems like a good trend.

However, if history is any guide we will soon find out that the number is actually worse. For the past 57 weeks the Labor Department has revised its weekly initial jobless-claims number up the following week, according to a Dow Jones study.

For example, when the March 31 jobless claim figures were released, so was a revision to the March 24 numbers. Initial jobless claims went up to 363,000 from 359,000. The Dow Jones study found that four times in the past year, what was first reported as drop in claims became an increase after an upward revision a week later.
Read More Here.

 

[Varine]

If there's some form you can fill in which states that you are under no circumstances to be shipped off or contribute to the war.

It's called conscientious objector during conscription and you don't join the military if you're not going to contribute.