Stacking the same buff

[Weyird]

Hi, as far as I know buffs are unstackable. There are two types of abilities I need some help with:

1) A basic aura that is stackable between units. Specifically, I would like necromancer that summons skeletons and each skeleton reduces enemy units' attack or armour. I can make an ability that does so, but if there are two skeletons it won't stack. In short, I want a type of fear effect so if there is a huge horde of skeletons walking towards you, you lose all your stats; but if its just one it's hardly anything.

2) How do you stack friendly buffs such as attack speed or damage bonuses that wear off over time. As far as I know there is nothing in the triggers that let you increase attach speed or damage or some such. Specifically, I want a character that gains a bloodlust type buff each time he kills a unit, with him getting progressively stronger each time he kills something in a short burst. Also, how do you put a stack cap on it so he can only have this buff, say, 10 times at one time.

Thanks

 

[Nenad]

If Glenphir sees this he will probably say: Stack auras! x)

And that's what you should do ^^

Both of the abilities have to be triggered, but the problem is the first ability. You can not stack the exact same aura (you can stack different ones of the same base). For the first spell you would have to do something, but i'm afraid my solution will lag the entire map xD

But, i will post it anyway:

Every Second pick up every unit in the map (i know i know) and check to see how many skeletons there are in its range. When you see how many reduce your stats by that much. It's a bad solution but it's kind of a start if you start thinking about ways to improve it xD

2) Well, i would make a dummy whenever the killer kills a unit and give it bloodlust. Make an integer variable that will store the amount of units killed. Then set the level of bloodlust to that integer and fire away, as the stronger buff over rides the weaker one, you should have no problems. Also limit the integer to check if it's 10, if it is, then don't add more ^^

Also not a perfect solution, but hey, it's something ^^

 

[Weyird]

I'm really adverse to things that cause lag, especially 1sec periodic events.. I'm also hoping to avoid making 50 of the same aura and triggering the giving of the next aura to each new summon...
I COULD do it like that but I'm really hoping to avoid that...

 

[jarg1985]

Actually you can stack buffs, but you would need a different buff for each unit, granted they could be the same effect and everything identical, but you would need different names for them. Worked for me.

 

[Sacred_Tear]

1) There is only one aura that i know of that you can customize to give a negative bonus to all nearby units. You could also use dummy units - I'M A FAN OF THESE - to cast multiple buffs - armor decrease
- on nearby units. This will only be temporary however. Refer to below (2) on how to do this.
EDIT: OMG! I see what your saying. If you go this route. In your trigger editor. Set the level of armor decrease == to the number of units that has it. for instance - If your skeleton has a -1 armor skill then leave the ability as is. If you have 10 skeletons, set the level of the ability to 10, etc.

2) Simple. Have a dummy unit with locust and a working bloodlust spell. Make sure he has enough mana to cast it:

• Events
  • Unit - A unit dies
  • Conditions
    • (Unit-type of (killing unit)) equal to <your unit>
  • Actions
    • Set temploc = (position of (killing unit))
    • Unit - Create 1 <your dummy> for (owner of (killing unit)) at temploc facing default building degrees
    • Set tempunit = last created unit
    • Unit - add a 2 second expiration time on tempunit
    • Unit - order tempunit to bloodlust (killing unit)
    • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_temploc)

That should do it. There may be some minor adjustments to the script. I don't have my editor handy right now - sorry, I had to do everything from memory. :thup: Good luck.

 

[Ayanami]

Actually you can stack buffs, but you would need a different buff for each unit, granted they could be the same effect and everything identical, but you would need different names for them. Worked for me.

May I ask if you're talking about buff placing skills (Eg. Inner Fire) or Auras? I'm sure buff placing skills can't stack.

 

[avalya]

Yeah, buff placing abilities do not stack, auras, however do.

 

[jarg1985]

Auras are the only way that I see could handle this job.

 

[Sacred_Tear]

Your telling me that innerfire and faerie fire dont stack??

 

[avalya]

No, we're telling you inner fire and inner fire don't stack.

 

[Ayanami]

Why not base it off Item - Armor Bonus and give it negative values. And make it correspond to how much enemies there are in the map periodically.