Ultimates

[Verrak]

In dota, Ultimates go through spell immunes, and avatars. And i know how to do this via Gomeplay Constants - Gameplay - Magic Immune Resists Ultimates - false/true.

But my questions is..what determines if its an ultimate or not.

 

[I_RULE_YOU]

I've wondered that for a long long time.............
My only guess is that its level 6, but you could have a hero with lots of level 6 required spells, so its confusing.......

 

[Fluffball]

Maybe there's an object editor field?

 

[thewrongvine]

It's not "level 6" because there is no such thing as an "ultimate" ability unless with more advanced stuff perhaps.

It's just a normal ability with customized stats - make it so that there is only one rank for the ability, one set of everything (changing tooltips, icons, etc.), and then you change the Required Level part of it. In DotA, there are 3 ranks of that ability, and you can change the Level Skip or whatever.

Ultimates can be blocked... even in DotA, from what I have seen... unless I'm wrong... lol

 

[demotry241]

its a 6.


notice that all creeps above level 6 is powerful, amazing huh..
I can't even use charm on them.

Level 6 = Powerful Creeps(that I hate), Ultimate(well I tried using gameplay constants and a modified stormbolt to see if it will deal damage to a dryat.. it did.

 

[Verrak]

Ultimates can be blocked... even in DotA, from what I have seen... unless I'm wrong... lol

You can, Lions/linas finger of death will hit anything, BKB and naix spellimmune


Cool, so any spell that requires 6 or higher...is an ult

 

[I_RULE_YOU]

Well, I'm editing an old man right now actually, and there are multiple ultimates (all requiring level 6) that don't damage magic immunes. E.G: Theres an ultimate based off War Stomp that deals no damage to magic immune units, and yet stuns them. There are about 20 ultimates like that, the buff works, the damage does not. And yes the gameplay constants doesn't have it blocked.

 

[AceHart]

> what determines if it's an ultimate

An Ultimate is any Hero ability with a required level (to learn it) of 2 or higher.

 

[cleeezzz]

ultimates probably go through because their triggered?

 

[Trithilon-V2]

They go through spell immune units if the Minimum required level of the hero ability is 6.
However...the only way to counter it is have a spell Immunity as your hero ability with minimum required level as 6.
That way even ultimates cant be cast on that unit....unless its a physical spell.

 

[Verrak]

They go through spell immune units if the Minimum required level of the hero ability is 6.
However...the only way to counter it is have a spell Immunity as your hero ability with minimum required level as 6.
That way even ultimates cant be cast on that unit....unless its a physical spell.

You can even put that logic into the basic game. Death and decay affects dyrads, i know that for sure. Not sure if it affects avatar MK

 

[I_RULE_YOU]

Blizzard ultimate all hit magic immune units.

Earthquake, Bladestorm, Starfall, Stampede, each and every single one. Raising the required level to 6 doesn't make it hit magic immune units, I've seen it myself.

 

[demotry241]

that is because

in

gameplay constants

ultimates can damage magic immunes = true

 

[I_RULE_YOU]

Even with that on, almost all normal spells with just level 6 requirements still don't work.

 

[FireBladesX]

If an ability's an "ultimate" just depends if it was an ultimate in the ladder game.

 

[I_RULE_YOU]

Yea I realised that, but how did DotA get theirs to work? Is there a simple way to do it?

Damn, I hope I'm not hijacking this thread. I should stop......

 

[Cheesy]

> what determines if it's an ultimate

An Ultimate is any Hero ability with a required level (to learn it) of 2 or higher.

Did everyone decide to ignore AceHart's post?