Variable Questions.

[WackO_WilL]

I read this sites Variables Basic page, But i read it, and afterwords, Still asked myself what did i just learn? nothing much. Im kinda dense.

okay, I do NOT, know at ALL, How to do variables, So I'm going to ask for an example to study from, all I need is two and ill be able to do the rest on my own, For a variable/trigger that would put A special effect on the left hand of a unit when it is put into slot 1. And when you took the item out of slot 1, It would make the Effect dissapear from your hand. or if you placed it in your 2ed slot, It would show up in your right hand. Thanks to all who Help me in advance.

 

[N2o)]

for variables and for your question about items.

 

[WackO_WilL]

yeah, And after reading both, I still dont know how to get what i want o.o Is it that obvious?! Ive read the variables one like 3 times still dont understand it.

 

[Hatebreeder]

Well
Sotre your values to the matching Variable, so that you can use them after waits etc.

 

[WackO_WilL]

I have no idea what triggers to use o.o this is what i got sofar, but i just got a crapload of errors
Events
Time - Every 2.00 seconds of game time
Conditions
Actions
If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
If - Conditions
Stone Sword Equal to (Item-type of (Item carried by Marooned Survivor 0001 <gen> in slot 1))
Then - Actions
Special Effect - Create a special effect attached to the Left hand of Marooned Survivor 0001 <gen> using ShortSword.mdx
Set Weapons[1] = (Last created special effect)
Else - Actions
Special Effect - Destroy Weapons[1]

 

[Larcenist]

I have no idea what triggers to use o.o this is what i got sofar, but i just got a crapload of errors
Events
Time - Every 2.00 seconds of game time
Conditions
Actions
If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
If - Conditions
Stone Sword Equal to (Item-type of (Item carried by Marooned Survivor 0001 <gen> in slot 1))
Then - Actions
Special Effect - Create a special effect attached to the Left hand of Marooned Survivor 0001 <gen> using ShortSword.mdx
Set Weapons[1] = (Last created special effect)
Else - Actions
Special Effect - Destroy Weapons[1]

I can't seem to figure out what this is supposed to do. Weapons[1] is the created special effect, and you create that effect if your unit carries the item in slot 1. From how it looks now you remove that special effect (which isn't created) if the unit does not carry the weapon in slot 1.

Is it important that the attachment only shows if you carry the item in slot 1? Otherwise you can just add it to the item in the Object Editor.

 

[darkRae]

Maybe he wants that if the item is in a certain slot, the SFX will also show up in a certain slot.

You run the trigger every 2 seconds, creating a SFX everytime.
That'll lag after the first 10-15 minutes.

EDIT:
Or even faster.

 

[WackO_WilL]

Well, yeah it is kinda important, Because in my map, I want to make it where you only get item benefits and SFX when your weapon is in Slot 1, Thats your mainhand, And then smaller weapons, Or a Sheild into Slot 2. Then i wanna make some armor items that can only be worn in 3-6.

 

[Larcenist]

I read this sites Variables Basic page, But i read it, and afterwords, Still asked myself what did i just learn? nothing much. Im kinda dense.

okay, I do NOT, know at ALL, How to do variables, So I'm going to ask for an example to study from, all I need is two and ill be able to do the rest on my own, For a variable/trigger that would put A special effect on the left hand of a unit when it is put into slot 1. And when you took the item out of slot 1, It would make the Effect dissapear from your hand. or if you placed it in your 2ed slot, It would show up in your right hand. Thanks to all who Help me in advance.

Didn't read this part. So basically you want it to be one effect on the left hand if in slot 1, one on the right hand if the item is in slot 2, and no effects if the item is in any other slot. How about

Events
A unit aquires an item

Conditions
Item-Type of item being manipulated equal to <your item> and Unit-Type of triggering unit equal to <your unit>

Actions
if (All conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
if - Conditions
Item-Type of (Item carried by <your unit> in slot 1) equal to <Your item>

Then Actions
Create special effect attached to the left hand of <your unit> using <your model>
Set WeaponEffect = last created special effect
Turn on ItemRemove <gen>

Else Actions
Do nothing

---------------------------------------------------------
Item Remove (Initially off)

Events
Every 0.0X seconds of game time

Conditions
Item-type of (item carried by <your unit> in slot 1) Not Equal To <your item>

Actions
Destroy WeaponEffect
Turn off (This trigger)
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I have no idea if this works though, since I haven't tried it myself. Try it out, and if it doesn't work we'll try something else.

Edit:
If you want main weapons to be slot 1, shields and off hands to be slot 2, armors slot 3 etc, why not make it so that you can only have Weapons in slot 1, shields/off hands in slot 2 and armors in slot 3 then?

 

[WackO_WilL]

Im trying to make it versatile, Items will have an option to be either Main hand, Or offhand only, Some items are Both.Example.
Lumber Axe.
Main hand only.
+12 attack and +2 lumber return.
Attack speed Slowed.(by some percentage.

Sword
Main hand and Offhand
+6 Damage, Chance to cause bleed effect to enemy target.
Attack speed increase (by some stupid percentage, or other means.

Sheild
Offhand only.
+5 Armor, Increases chance to Block next attack 5%
Speed reduced slightly (Some stupid integer)

Im making a survival Map where you make your own weapons, but cant stack them, And each weapon you make gives you perks, Some weapons might do crazy damage, but slow attackspeed, Or not so crazy damage, but fast attack speed. And the dual weild is prettymuch eyecandy,

Axe
12 damage -20%off of attack swing.
Sword, 3 damage, +5% attack swing,

Turns out to be, 15 damage, -15% attack swing.
Editing model attack animation to make it look like its attacking with both weapons too. Or in combination with a sheild, Kinda Sticking out the sheild for defence.

 

[Larcenist]

Why not drop the items from the hero if he for example picks up a Sword in slot 3 or 4, that way it'll be much easier. You can make a backpack unit or something to hold items which you can't carry at that point.

 

[WackO_WilL]

Eh, A backpack unit, hmm. That will solve ALOT of issues, How would i do it though? Im sure somewhere I can find a system, time for Search engine! *Music* Even though, I kinda like my system, But if its overcomplicated, It will provide same gameplay if i use a backpack system

 

[Larcenist]

Making the basics of the backpack unit is easy, and someone asked yesterday how to make a backpack unit such as the one in The Black Road RPG if you ever played that one. Read more here http://www.thehelper.net/forums/showthread.php?t=79350

 

[WackO_WilL]

I saw that, But I was thinking of something different, How about making my Hero able to carry 1 Unit, And that only unit was a Crate, With 6 slots, And I could put items into it, And then press the load button on my crate, and my hero picks it up, then i rightclick it, And it pops out of the hero, Kinda like an invintory button, Make it invulnerable, and not able to move, and BAM, we gots ourselfs a Backpack, Soz im thinking, Would this work?

 

[Larcenist]

I've seen something similar in a Diablo 2 RPG I played where the Horadric Cube was an item which you dropped to make it a crate on the ground. From there you could insert items in it and then right click it to be able to pick it up again. So it do work, but I guess it'll require some work. If you're decent with triggering I guess you'll make it though, since I don't think it's too advanced.

 

[WackO_WilL]

Nah, I dont think it is, Maybe all i gotta do is just changed some Abillitys, like the Orc burrow one? Kinda make the Survivor a Burrow, and the Box a Peon, That should work out with out any triggers maybe.

 

[Larcenist]

But you do want the crate to be able to turn back into an item right? And then you also gotta make sure that the items the crate it carrying will still be there when you open it again. This is probably the most annoying part I think.

 

[darkRae]

You should probably ask waaaks!, he once used a backpack system (similar to what you want) in his map.
But I'm not sure if he's the original creator of the Backpack system.
(in JASS)

 

[Larcenist]

I've never made a system like this myself so I really have no clue what to do, but if you need help just tell me and I can open up WE and try some things out. I guess it can't be that hard to make if you put some efford in it.

 

[WackO_WilL]

I think ill just make a custom abillity, called, Open Backpack, and it instantly moves your backpack to your guy from a small remote location in the bottom right most corner, Then The abillity dissapears, and turns to a different icon, called, Close Backpack, And you target your backpack and if you 150 units away, your guy will "close It" instantly teleport it from him to the corner, It has 0 Visabillity and cannot move. invulnerable. If you lose it on the map, you can type "Ping my Backpack" and it pings your backpack on the minimap (If it isnt put away) It will then appear as a backpack.