wandering creeps

[Lord Kass]

Can anyone help me with this? I need a creep that wanders around. I tried the wander ability but the problem with it is that when you attack that creep, the creep runs away from you and i don't want that. I can't use too the easy way which is

Wander
    Events
        Time - Every 15.00 seconds of game time
    Conditions
    Actions
        Unit - Order Ghoul 001 <gen> to Move To (Random point in Wander 001 <gen>)

cause when that creep dies and after it had revived or spawned again or something, trigger won't work obviously. Map is like an rpg or something when creeps die they are respawned after some few seconds. I also wanted them not to roam around too far.

 

[Sylvanas299]

Giving the unit the wander ability will make them move, but if they run away, you can use triggers to do unit gets attacked, tell attacked unit to attack attacking unit. And you can also create regions to were if they leave, it will put them back in random point in regions. I'll give code if you haven't figured it out or if no one else responds to this when I get home.

 

[Exide]

You can also remove Abilities for Units with Triggers.

*Unit Type of Unit* is attacked
Remove Wander from *Unit_Type*

-Something like that
Dont know if that will work, though.

 

[Sylvanas299]

You can also remove Abilities for Units with Triggers.

*Unit Type of Unit* is attacked
Remove Wander from *Unit_Type*

-Something like that
Dont know if that will work, though.

It would, set the unit thats attacked to a variable, then remove wander from the variable.

Event
Unit [COLOR="Red"]is attacked[/COLOR]
Condtion
[COLOR="Red"]Attacked unit[/COLOR] equal to [COLOR="red"]Gnoll Poacher [/COLOR](maybe player comparison too) and Owner of [COLOR="red"]attacked unit[/COLOR] equal to [COLOR="red"]Neutral Hostile [/COLOR](or who ever)
Action
Set [COLOR="red"]attacked unit [/COLOR]= [COLOR="red"]Attacked_Creep[/COLOR]
Remove [COLOR="red"]Wander[/COLOR] from [COLOR="red"]Attacked_Creep[/COLOR]

You could also do a trigger to give wander back incase the creep wins.Things can be done various ways, just pick which ever you feel is easiest.

 

[Lord Kass]

Ok thx guys. Will this work?

Creep Attacked
    Events
        Unit - A unit Is attacked
    Conditions
        (Owner of (Attacked unit)) Equal to Neutral Hostile
    Actions
        Unit - Remove Wander (Neutral) from (Attacked unit)
        Wait 15.00 game-time seconds
        Unit - Add Wander (Neutral) to (Attacked unit)

 

[Exide]

Looks like it would work.
But note that when the unit is attacked. The trigger will fire again. And again. For each attack. If you know what I mean.
So if the creep has a lot of hp, the trigger will run again and again. I'm not sure how it will work with the:

Wait 15.00 game-time seconds
Unit - Add Wander (Neutral) to (Attacked unit)

-part..
But I don't think it will be a problem, though. Because I can't see any Memory leaks in your trigger.
Maybe I missed something, though. But it looks good to me

 

[Geelottaja]

If you really don't want to remove it every time add a
IF unit has ability
THEN remove ability & wait 10 seconds and add ability
ELSE do nothing

 

[Blue_Hand]

A good way of making random moving creeps is to add them to unit group at initialization and then

Random Move
    Events
        Time - Every 3.00 seconds of game time
    Conditions
    Actions
        Unit Group - Pick every unit in Random_moving_group and do (Actions)
            Loop - Actions
                Unit - Order (Picked unit) to Attack-Move To (Random point in Region 001 <gen>)

because you order them to attack-move they will stop moving random when they see enemy and attack it, and after that they will come back to moving random. Units in unit group are in that group even if dead, so there isn't problem with respawning them.

 

[Romek]

A good way of making random moving creeps is to add them to unit group at initialization and then

Random Move
    Events
        Time - Every 3.00 seconds of game time
    Conditions
    Actions
        Unit Group - Pick every unit in Random_moving_group and do (Actions)
            Loop - Actions
                Unit - Order (Picked unit) to Attack-Move To (Random point in Region 001 <gen>)

because you order them to attack-move they will stop moving random when they see enemy and attack it, and after that they will come back to moving random. Units in unit group are in that group even if dead, so there isn't problem with respawning them.

i think you should keep it as move. and do another trigger which makes them attack if attacked. this way, the creeps won't engage battle with you as much as a player (I think you've noticed hat neutral hostile doesnt attack air)

 

[WoW01]

Rather than useing the wander ability, triggers may get the job done more effectively IF you know the wandering unit is going to die on its first engagement.
Wander
Events
Time - Every 15.00 seconds of game time
Conditions
Actions
Unit - Order Ghoul 0000 <gen> to Move To (Random point in Wander <gen>)
And then in another trigger
Wander Turn off
Events
Unit - Ghoul 0000 <gen> Is attacked
Conditions
Actions
Trigger - Turn off Wander <gen>
However if you are not planning on the unit dying during its first engagement yuo may want to try someone else's idea...

 

[Tom Jones]

That would require you to make a trigger for every unit you wish to wander... You SHOULD use the wander ability, the reason they are running off when attacked is that they are assigned to player neutral, passive, or extra. Try changing it to Player Hostile.

 

[Blue_Hand]

this is not right

the reason they are running off when attacked is that they are assigned to player neutral, passive, or extra. Try changing it to Player Hostile.

Hostile Player units with wander will attack enemies but they will sometimes run away. This can happen randomly.
=> romek
I don't understand you exactly. And Neutral hostile units attack air.

 

[Tom Jones]

If you take 'em to far away from their respective creep camps, yea they will run back. If a hostile creep is provoked, and if it aint disabled, it will attack the provoker.

 

[Blue_Hand]

I tried this. Even if they are in their respective creep camps, sometimes they run away, when you try to attack them. When in combat they rather don't do this.

 

[Flying Hipo]

give unit wander, and make a trigger that checks whether the unit is in the region or not, if not, then warp unit to center of region ______

 

[Exide]

How about giving them wander ability and then turning off 'canFlee' (set to 0)?

 

[Blue_Hand]

It looks like it works

 

[Aasimir]

blue hand was closest

his trigger before where you pick every unit was just about right, only instead of attack move you merely use patrol.

 

[Exide]

I, still, don't see why you need a trigger, though..
Just add one or two simply settings to the few Units you want to Wander around, and you're done

 

[Weyrling]

I think that the people on this forum need to use more simple ways of doing things, you guys can make up amazing triggering for simple things, such as turning the Can Flee setting to False.