Battle Ship Xtrm

[DemonOfNight]

Ok, like i said, i remade all the map, i started with the south base, i make a (beach-like) terrain and made 3 island to mark the limit of the base!!! i will make the harbour and place them right to the spawn place!!! I like your triggers sooda but i dont think the moving ships are not that much smooth and the follow a path, anyway im makeing the map and i will finnally send it to serra. Im really sorry serra because i couldnt gave it to you before because of all the problems i got (btw my grandfather as died) i got troublesome theise last weeks but now im ok!!! take a look at this picture:
The picture of the south base is here!!!

EDIT: Why does it makes a melee game init at the start of the game?

EDIT: Nvm, i found why!!!

 

[SerraAvenger]

Well I will add just some terrain things then..
And I don't think that these "crew orders" are to fine... they make it too complicated for players.
And it would take too long, so some players probably won't even start creating a crew.... And we wanted to make a Bship mod, not a completely new gametype!
I think it would be fine with normal use of crew, just like workers that can repair, and so on...
Next friday I will create a little map showing what I meant by the crew and interiors....

But I have one burning question - how do you plan to make weapons?
I really didn't get it...
Plz answer me

Greets Serra

P.S.: Nevermind, DemonOfNight... I had no time for the map

 

[DemonOfNight]

well, okay.
>Weapons:
Its really easy, we will only use pheonix fire and barrage as ability and after put them in an item (Btw, barrage is to make LOT of multiple shooting)
>Bship mod:
Well, yeah this is all like battleship EXEPT that wee put in some new things cause if we dont do things like that, the players will say that we copied the ancient maps at 100% and we didnt invent a thing.
>Crew:
I think our actual idea of what are the crew members is really good, all our ideas became in one and everything is ok (this is what i think)
>Extra, Victim, Hostile, vice versa WTF:
Hey sooda, i dont really know what (neutral thing) is allied woth the south base so i cant finish my repair thingy correctly so plz tell me what is the (neutral thing) for the south AND the north base (What i mean by neutral thing is Neutral Victim, Hostile, Passive, vice versa)

 

[SerraAvenger]

> weapons
ok just how I said, but then I don't see any option to create ammo use in those phenixfire....
I tried it in my ctf map, but look at my problem:
http://www.thehelper.net/forums/showthread.php?t=53806

 

[DemonOfNight]

well, ok i understand what u say but we dont want to make pheonix fire need mana, exept if our ammo system is needing mana but i dont think this is what we will do. Anyway, take a look at my tutorial on how to make those kind of weapons (Don is D= Demon / O= Of / N= Nightmar):
The tutorial of Don is here

 

[Sooda]

> Btw my grandfather as died.
R.I.P
> What (neutral thing) is allied woth the south base
Two Forces (Teams) South Force has Neutral Victim as allies and North Force has Neutral Extra as ally.
Neutral Hostile is Neutral Hostile for everybody.
> The picture of the south base is here !
That seems already better. Little dark sea spots have to be there ? Can you buy from shipyard ships ? You should bring it a bit more out from corner still shipyard should be connected with land (Shipyard should not be surounded with shallow water. In one side there should be sand also.). It looks way nicer than before. Even smoother if you can otherwise gj.

 

[Miz]

Poor Sooda

but the crew thing is new I think people would like the idea but how hard is it
(because in this game I'm only the Manager, Cheif Tester, and Admin of the Map lol so I want to try it out if you don't mind )

 

[Sooda]

> Btw my grandfather as died.
R.I.P

>Poor Sooda
It was DemonOfNight grandfather
>I want to try it out if you don't mind
Of course you can it is in early stage though right now.

 

[SerraAvenger]

well, ok i understand what u say but we dont want to make pheonix fire need mana, exept if our ammo system is needing mana but i dont think this is what we will do. Anyway, take a look at my tutorial on how to make those kind of weapons (Don is D= Demon / O= Of / N= Nightmar):
The tutorial of Don is here

Your tutorial is useless for me I posted the way of making these weapons at the beginneng of this thread LOOK HERE
And I never read your tutorial before...

And the problem is the same....
You need st to take ammo, I need st to take mana
But it will have the same event !!
Both triggters will have to execute when the phenixfire missile is started!

So if you want to make this *** Ammo use, we first have to create a trigger that does what we want to!
Wether in GUI or in MUI for me no difference but if we want to make it in MUI do it so, sooda!
Or I see no point in creating ammo or st like that!

 

[Sooda]

Good news I have reworked moving trigger- it no more lags and should be leak free. Only small lag spikes in when all units are created but I think I can solve that issue in no time.
> st
What is that "st" ?

> I will make spawn trigger now to reduce lag when units are created then I move on to the Phonix Fire issue.

 

[SerraAvenger]

st = something

 

[DemonOfNight]

ok i have a little problem... the thing is that i cannot change the owner of the tower of the empiore to Neutral Victim. The 2 options are neutral and neutral hostile. i can only make tower to the neutral victim if i spawn them at the start (trigger and regions needed) but it produce GIGA long DL so i think we could take the other neutral or only make 5 plyrs in each teams.

 

[Sooda]

> Ok i have a little problem... the thing is that i cannot change the owner of the tower of the empiore to Neutral Victim.
It isn' t really a problem create it for both teams (Take player 1 for Force 1 and player 7 for Force 2.) and after when map initializes we change owner with triggers.
What you are doing right now ? Pics from terrain- I' m curious like always. Btw all towers, buildings must be units. Otherwise it would cause bugs with Neutrals.
Don' t worry we can find solutions to all problems.

Now I have finished movement and spawn triggers- they work like a charm. Only first time it lags because preloading isn' t done, after first wave you don' t even notice when ships are created.
I have to work with vote trigger now. Phoenix fire later... all things on new weekend. Right now I could implement movment and spawn triggers if you would send me map.

 

[SerraAvenger]

I want map too tomorrow...
You could send it now to sooda, then he (I think "he", if not tell me) can send it to me
And right now I'm working on a Bship map on myself...
But has not much to do with this one
More infos later...

 

[DemonOfNight]

ok, just wait a moment, i have to understand what ur talkin about. When you will have the map, you could make me understand why we should use units to make towers because towers are units... anyway, i dont really understand what ur talking about.
>we could change ownership
I did this in other maps and it still lagg a bit at the start.

>Right now, im making vote
Ok, make some jass for vote and ill give the map in like 2 hours (GMT+3 ''south canada'')

EDIT:

>Serra
Yeah, i will give it to sooda and he will decide what he will do (not my problem when HE have it...) god damn i got to edit the post because u posted when i was writing!!

 

[Sooda]

>Ok, just wait a moment, i have to understand what ur talkin about.
Neutral Victim & Extra will flee from buildings what shoot them if they have health below yellow.
>Ok, make some jass for vote.
I'm exhausted from work what I did already by fixing and creating spawn trigger. I will start on vote system on next weekend. So don' t hurry with sending me map. I' m just ready with my so far made work.
>I did this in other maps and it still lagg a bit at the start.
That isn' t because of that. That lag came from not preloading units, buildings, effects, sounds, icons, etc. All what will be used in game should be preloaded so it would not create "first cast lag".

 

[DemonOfNight]

no prob, i set what i got to set, i hope you like the map, make a reply ASAP saying what u think of the map (things i should improve and things you like) BTW repair system half working!!

EDIT: i have a good idea to display some information on the boats and the upgrades he have. The thing is that with triggers, we can change the (agility ''value'') for something else and in the game properties, i think its text-general, we can change the text ( Agility: ) to ( Sail Speed: ). So what i want to display is really easy to do. We take 3 variables:
Sail_Speed (integer no array «0 = default»)
Crew (is, in the game, the number of crew you have) (integer no array «0 = default)
Repare_Rate (integer no array «0 = default»)

This is the trigger:

Change the values

Event:
-Time elapsed is 2 seconds
Condition:
Action:
-For each integer A from 1 to 12, do actions
Loop-Action
-Pick every units owner by player integer A and do multiple actions
-Set Sail_Speed = picked unit integer(default speed)
-Set Regeneration_Rate = picked unit integer(default speed)
-Modify Strenght of picked unit (add Sail_speed)
-Modify Agility of picked unit (add Regeneration_Rate)
-Modify Intelligence of picked unit (add Crew)

i hope you understand my idea!

 

[Sooda]

I understand it but I would still like to use usual load ability to carry crew- that would hide stats. I try to check map tomorrow evening or so.

 

[SerraAvenger]

DON this is a bugged trigger...

Look here:

Let's say sailspeed is 300, okay?
Then it is ifrst looked at.... Sail_speed = 300
Strength is 1 at the beginning, so it will be 300 + 1 = 301
Yet one too much
and then, 4 seconds gametime:
Sail_speed = 300
Strength: add 300
301 + 300 = 601
wiich is 301 too much
Next time
901
and so on -.-

Do it like this:

Event: every 3 seconds of gametime
Condition:/
Actions:
Pick every unit matching condition: matching unit is a hero equal to true
and do: Hero - Decrease Strength of (picked unit) by (Strength of picked unit)
           Hero - Add (current movespeed of picked unit - 1) to strength of (picked unit)

And this for all attributes

And i have a question...
Why do you always write "He have" and not "he has"?
I think it has to be that verb form...


@Sooda: It would hide stats but would only allow 12 units (max) to be carried


Greets Serra

 

[DemonOfNight]

lol serra, this was only an exemple... it doesnt have to be THAT MUCH clear cause its not in the game, but on the forum!!!-_-. Btw, he have, its because i was tinkin about something else while writin!!