Cusom Game Pet Peeves?

Tru_Power22

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I don't know about you but there are some custom games that drive me insane! Most wouldn't even be that horrible if they just did a few things differently.

Some of my pet peeves are:
1) Hero Arenas/AoS maps that use non-triggered/slightly modified spells.

Not all maps need totally custom spells. I map that I'm making (It's a small side project that is unit oriented), I wanted the spells the heroes had to blend with the map better, so I modified the art and tool tips. But, when you have 40 heroes in a map and most of them have no triggered spells. It plays like an unbalanced game of Warcraft, rather than a unique hero arena.

2) Music/Stupid Sounds

I hate this so much, it's not even funny. A crappy map is still crappy even if you had the entire "Moving Pictures" album in it. All it does is annoy people because they need to download for 15 minutes just to find out that it is total garbage. While I admit you can put sounds in a game to enhance it, to many is just redundant.

3) Using custom models to cover up stupid crap.

This is similar to number two, but putting models in a map is just as bad as the music. Again I say, if there really is no model that fits, this can be good. But in a map where you have 10 heroes (all of them fantasy based) you don't really need to import custom models. Anyone ever heard the saying "You can't polish a turd"?

4) Map's with a million player controlled units.

Another project I have does indeed have a lot of units, but they are computer controlled. So they automatically go to the fray, and therefore quickly die. But when you give people control over the same units, most idiots will let them sit there and mass, until the Warcraft engine gives them a big middle finger and slows right down. (Seriously play "Evolves" that is a perfect example of what I'm talking about).

5) Imbalance

Ok, balancing is HARD. If you have ever tried to make a map you know that. So minor imbalance is really not that bad. As most people can play their way through that if their good enough. But there are sometimes where this gets ridiculous. Winter-Maul is a good example. What is by far the best race? Crystal, seeing as it's one of the few races that can actually kill the first air. Plus it's second tower can get you through about half of the damn game. Now I'm not saying the game is bad, but with only one race (in my eyes) being effective early and late game, what's the point of having other races.

6) "Better than DotA"

How many times have you seen a map get hosted that has said EOTWOGITOWTA - Better than DotA!, or whatever stupid acronym the host decided to use (god forbid "Join Quick - Better than DotA"). If it really was better than DotA, why are you the only one hosting your map? Now I'm not saying DotA is perfect, nor am I saying it's the best map, or even a great map. But you can't argue that it is by far the most hosted one. Back on my point, if it's greater than DotA why do you need to compare your map to it to get people to join. Try making an original game, then you won't need a stupid gimmick like that to get people to join.

7) Retarded/False/Advertising in games names

Just a quick one, that isn't to do so much with the custom game as the person hosting it. Is it really necessary to advertise free porn or your your crappy website in game names? No. It's also it's entirely pointless to beg for Cd keys and Diablo II accounts (no joke, I've seen morons do this).

Yeah, I have more but I can't think of them right now.


So anyways I'm asking you guys what are some of your pet peeves?
 

Jaujarahje

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Anyone ever heard the saying "You can't polish a turd"?
Mythbusters proved that you can in fact polish a turd.
 

Jaujarahje

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Haha yea I do.
On-topic, I hate newb unfriendly games, and/or people that make games newb unfriendly (I'm looking at you dota)
How am I supposed to get into a new game (map) when I'm getting killed every 5 seconds and have no clue what to do to not die. And the quests with freaking 20 walls of text telling you what to do don't help. Nobody wants to read that much in a game.
 

Vaius

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Pet Peeve:

Too much shiny, and not enough substance.

Tons of super-mega-awesome-custom models, sounds, etc. Good for you. Now where's the actual game?

I would rather be playing a text-adventure rpg with a good plot/storyline than super-mega-graphics-but-i-can't-make-a-storyline-so-screw-you-gamer!
 

Jaujarahje

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Oh another thing. When I'm on US West and I join an RPG to find out I can't read a god damn thing. Seriously, how the hell am I supposed to know what something does if all is in the description is .. , .
 

Tru_Power22

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Oh another thing. When I'm on US West and I join an RPG to find out I can't read a god damn thing. Seriously, how the hell am I supposed to know what something does if all is in the description is .. , .

Yeah, which is unfortunate as a lot of those eastern RPGs (or what ever) are actually quite fun.
 

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Grammar, Engrish.
These people are horrible at there grammers. u sware these peeple nevr went to scool.
I'm actually surprised how many maps have this. (Though, maybe not as bad)
A good map starts with decent grammar.

Unhelpful tooltips.
I see in Tooltips 3 things:

-Tool Tip Missing! Or,
-
The above is blank.
-Uber leet smash! Pwns your enemies!
-The mountain king throws a hammer dealing small damage in a large area.

On the million controlled units, WC3 isn't like other RTS's, it's designed where you have smaller forces. Rise Of Nations, there isn't a limit to how many you select, though you need a lot to take a place over.
 

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Cinematics in multiplayer maps, seriously, it can only be good the first time.
I hate maps that rely on imported models too. The only good map I have seen that uses heavy amounts of imports properly was UA2.
Having "Protected" in the maps name.
Mass hostbots.
 

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I must definately say that I hate imbalanced games. No matter how good the game is, it just isn't fun when it's imbalanced like hell. I know, as you said, that balancing isn't hard, in fact it's really difficult.

For example, I bet most of you people have played footmen maps. Most of those maps are just, yeah, stupidly imbalanced. Take the Avanchel (or however it is spelled) hero, he has the power to one-hit other heroes with his stupid attacks. Yes, he moves slower then a snail in a box filled with super-glue but he has a blink and there is absolutely nothing you can do if you are another melee class.

But what bugs me the most when playing on battlenet is all the immature little kiddos playing and swearing and god knows what. I know it has nothing to do with custom games, but yeah, their moms should ban them from computers until they have learned to behave properly.

There, I finally got to release my anger against battenet. /endrant :D
 

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I don't play custom games unless they are hosted by someone I know online or myself for the reasons stated above.

> Grammar, Engrish.

This.
 

FhelZone

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I just hate games that destroy the smooth UI, I saw a rickroll map that kept my brother staring at the stupid Rick Roll picture for minutes not knowing how to terminate WC3, the menus were disabled.

Next,don't ever give me a game where I just kill units for no reasons!

I value the most the UI, don't be so ridiculous to give me a game with NO TOOLTIPS! Such a disgrace, there is tooltip for the users to UNDERSTAND your game!!!

I dislike games with imported files, which does not even look good! My goodness, don't you even know how to evaluate the quality of that model or texture.

GAMEPLAY is a must, I downloaded the map to play, not to click my mouse and get entertained by the sound of my clicking!

Cinematics which does not even make me quit the game! I WANT to quit, I HAVE the right to quit your ugly game!

Icons which are not even properly used, where are the DISBTNs! UI man UI, just make the game at least look polished by making the icons have DISBTNs.

Major imbalances, okay so it's like saying to the player, just play my game its fun. WHERE is JUSTICE if there are major imbalances, the game maker is the one who should play his game the most IMO.

Put things around and viola I have a game, WHAT! It's like playing a melee map dude!

Forever loaing, okay so you loaded forever AND THE MAP IS NOT EVEN WORTH it! Just use triggers to place those unneeded units!

LAG! LAG! LAG! I really despise the games which is too much laggy.
"Okay this guy is lagging up again - Drop Player?"
"I think he still needs to insert a coin in his computer o_O"
"Stupid charcoal driven computer!"
 

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Angel Arenas/Heaven vs. Hell.
How the hell am I supposed to memorize so many item combinations. And WTF is with the chosen one, rigged much?
 

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> Angel Arenas/Heaven vs. Hell.
How the hell am I supposed to memorize so many item combinations. And WTF is with the chosen one, rigged much?
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i agree, i plain suck at Angel Arena because theres too much to know, (secrets and stuff). and i think its like known by everyone that its wayyyyy imbalanced.

>I couldn't disagree more.

me too.


i also dont like crappy tooltips, especially when it doesnt even say a hotkey and i have to mash random buttons till i see an effect. (cooldown is a neat little tip, its not a big deal, but i like tooltips to include cooldowns as well)
 

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Thanks to the newest patch, there will be even more weird custom sounds, songs, and models. :(

I agree with all the posts so far entirely.. It is just plain annoying when people try to stray too far away from the gameplay and focus on the non-essentials. Makes me rather play super mario or something like that.. :p
 

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The things that annoy me the most in custom maps are what I try hard to eliminate in my own games.

But, what really turns me off in an instant:
  • Oh my word! If I hear that horn sound in an AoS again I'm going to vomit!
  • Crappy tooltips (tooltip missing, short descriptions, no data given)
  • Dumb features like 'double kill' or 'godlike' modes attached stupid sounds
  • Icons without DISBTNs (ugly green square when you pause)
  • No triggered spells (i mean come on! Anyone can make a copy of an ability.)
  • Bad balance/gameplay (was this game supposed to be fun?)
  • No help for new players (how the hell am I supposed to play this?)
  • Bad use of special effects/unecessary VFX (there are other options, like no effects)
  • Bad grammar and english (or whatever language is used)
  • Unpolished games (turd, anyone?)
  • Cheating AI (DotA AI v6.27, anyone?)
  • an Impossibility factor (warchasers and the dwarven tanks, Elemental TD and that clown kid at the end)
  • A game where pros are savages and noobs stand no chance (battleships, DotA, Island Defense)
 
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