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Hello everyone. I need some serious help. I hope you guys are ready for a challenge!
I will explain everything is chronilogical order.
This is the EXACT system I have
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AMD ATHLON 900MHz
IWILL KK266 w/ VIA KT133A CHIPSET (Original BIOS) (Original MoBo Drivers)
512MB SDRAM (NOT DDR) (two 256MB STICKS)
VisionTek XTASY GeForce 4 Ti 4600 DDR 128MB (40.72 drivers)
Sound Blaster Audigy MP3+ (latest drivers)
Quantum Fireball 30GIG HD
Linksys LNE100TX (Original Drivers)
Win98se (ALL service packs, critical ups, suggested ups, DX8.1a, etc.)
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PART I
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I will start out by saying the above configuration worked like a dream. Only two things
did not work.
1. The world editor(WC3WE) for warcraft 3 would randomly freeze (not crash, FREEZE, including my system).
2. I just bought Lord of the Rings FotR for PC and the textures were scrambled on all models.
3. I had latest patches for both above mentioned games.
In a quest to figure out why the WC3WE would randomly freeze my system and in efforts to be able
to play LotR FotR for PC without scrambled textures, I went on a quest to solve the problem.
Here is what I did.
1. I downloaded the newest (and appropriate) 4in1 drivers VIA has released for all their MoBos.
However, after I installed them, it gave me an error saying my video adapter was incompatable
and of coursed force me into some 16 color bullshit. Also, when I went into my device manager, it
said my primary IDE (HD) was not working properly. So, I am like WTF. I uninstalled the 4in1 MoBo drivers
and everything is back to normal, but my problem is not solved of course. I heard that if you have an
older bios, you need to update it before the 4in1s will work.
1. I downloaded the newest (and appropriate) BIOS for my KK266
So, I make my bios flashable, I flash my bios with awdflash, back up my old bio, and install
the new bios. (I guess the whole process is called flash). And, when my computer starts up, I immediately go
into bios and turn on fail safe default settings. SUCCESS. I did not screw up my computer. At this point,
WC3WE and LotR FotR still have same problems. Now that the bios is newer, I figure I will try the
via 4in1 drivers, since that was the whole point in flashing the bios anyway.
1. AGAIN, I install the newest (and appropriate) 4in1 drivers VIA has released.
Ah! This time my computer does accept the drivers. It does not complain about my video adapter
or my Primary IDE like before. Unfortunanlty, both of the above mentioned problems (WC3WE & LotR)
are still not resolved. ARGH! So, now I am desperate. Somehow I run across these leaked 41.09 drivers.
(this was like 2 days before they release the official 41.09)
1. I install the leaked nVIDIA Detonator 3 41.09 drivers
OMFG! It worked! I dont know why or how but somehow both the WC3WE and LotR run now like a dream
no freezing or scrambled textured! I must admit, I was a happy camper.
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PART II
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Ok, so now my computer works, I am in hog heaven. The very next day, my friend comes over with XP
for me. I am like drueling. Well sure. So I backup all my personal stuff.
1. I install Windows XP Professional (not on top of but a fresh format in NTFS)
2. I download ALL service packs, criticals, DX 8.1a, etc.
3. I download all of my drivers but the ones for XP.
(So my BIOS stays the same of course, but I reinstall [after xp install and update] 4in1s, non leaked
41.09s, Audigy drivers)
So, lets review. I have xp pro with FULL AND COMPLETE updates. AND, I also have all of the new and
appropriate drivers for all my hardware. And here is what is weird. Warcraft 3 (the game not the editor)
now crashes within the first 60 seconds of play. It crashes three different ways.
1. The most common crash was a soft crash to the desktop. It displayed a message saying something about a
memmory dump.
2. This crash was odd, it would freeze the game and my computer, and my speakers would squeel.
3. The one pissed me off, but was the least common. My computer would just restart. NO warning or nothing.
I am like WTF? I wanna play damnit! So this is everything I do to try to fix the problem.
1. scandisk and defrag
2. 40.72, 40.71, 40.41, 30.82 drivers for my vid card.
3. turning off 3d positional audio
4. disabling sound card in device manager
5. reinstalling direct x 8.1a
6. runing it is opengl and swtnl
7. changing the PCI texture memory from 63MB to 2MB
8. uninstalling the 4in1 mobo drivers
9. installed memmory zipper
Let me note that the weirdest thing about everything is tried is not that NOT A SINGLE one of those solutions
worked, but that not a single one changed the outcome of the error. I GOT THE SAME 3 errors no matter what I changed!
At this point, I figure I will just no play WC3. I buy a new game called hegemoina (a german game that is fun but
highly graphicly intense). I install, get the newest patch (1.7) and play. SAME THING! I dont f***ing belive it! The
SAME exact three things happen in the first 60 seconds of play. A soft crash, a freeze with squeeling, or a random reboot.
Now I am freaking. The only two things I have not changed is the OS and BIOS.
1. I reformat, install win98se back on my machine.
2. I installed my NIC card drivers so i could get to internet.
3. I get ALL THE UPDATES FOR windows 98 se, DX8.1a, IE 6, service packs, criticals, etc.
4. Then I install all my drivers that are for win98. I got the 41.09, the 4in1, the audigy drivers.
5. I reinstall original bios, and set on fail safe settings.
SAME ERROR! now I have 2 games warcraft 3 1.04 and Hegemonia 1.07 and both crash about 60 secs into the game.
I still get the SAME THREE ERRORS! WTF! This is probably where i was dumbfounded. NOT ONLY HAVE I NOW CHANGED AND TWEAKED
EVERYTHING INCLUDING MY OS AND BIOS. BUT I AM BACK TO THE EXACT (AND I MEAN EXACT) SAME SETUP THAT I HAD WHEN EVERYTHING WAS WORKING
JUST FINE!
now you know my sad story. I have tried everything and failed. IS THERE ANYONE WHO IS SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT TO DO?
thanks for your time and goodluck.
Nicholas Kimble
I will explain everything is chronilogical order.
This is the EXACT system I have
---------------------------
AMD ATHLON 900MHz
IWILL KK266 w/ VIA KT133A CHIPSET (Original BIOS) (Original MoBo Drivers)
512MB SDRAM (NOT DDR) (two 256MB STICKS)
VisionTek XTASY GeForce 4 Ti 4600 DDR 128MB (40.72 drivers)
Sound Blaster Audigy MP3+ (latest drivers)
Quantum Fireball 30GIG HD
Linksys LNE100TX (Original Drivers)
Win98se (ALL service packs, critical ups, suggested ups, DX8.1a, etc.)
---------------------------
======
PART I
======
I will start out by saying the above configuration worked like a dream. Only two things
did not work.
1. The world editor(WC3WE) for warcraft 3 would randomly freeze (not crash, FREEZE, including my system).
2. I just bought Lord of the Rings FotR for PC and the textures were scrambled on all models.
3. I had latest patches for both above mentioned games.
In a quest to figure out why the WC3WE would randomly freeze my system and in efforts to be able
to play LotR FotR for PC without scrambled textures, I went on a quest to solve the problem.
Here is what I did.
1. I downloaded the newest (and appropriate) 4in1 drivers VIA has released for all their MoBos.
However, after I installed them, it gave me an error saying my video adapter was incompatable
and of coursed force me into some 16 color bullshit. Also, when I went into my device manager, it
said my primary IDE (HD) was not working properly. So, I am like WTF. I uninstalled the 4in1 MoBo drivers
and everything is back to normal, but my problem is not solved of course. I heard that if you have an
older bios, you need to update it before the 4in1s will work.
1. I downloaded the newest (and appropriate) BIOS for my KK266
So, I make my bios flashable, I flash my bios with awdflash, back up my old bio, and install
the new bios. (I guess the whole process is called flash). And, when my computer starts up, I immediately go
into bios and turn on fail safe default settings. SUCCESS. I did not screw up my computer. At this point,
WC3WE and LotR FotR still have same problems. Now that the bios is newer, I figure I will try the
via 4in1 drivers, since that was the whole point in flashing the bios anyway.
1. AGAIN, I install the newest (and appropriate) 4in1 drivers VIA has released.
Ah! This time my computer does accept the drivers. It does not complain about my video adapter
or my Primary IDE like before. Unfortunanlty, both of the above mentioned problems (WC3WE & LotR)
are still not resolved. ARGH! So, now I am desperate. Somehow I run across these leaked 41.09 drivers.
(this was like 2 days before they release the official 41.09)
1. I install the leaked nVIDIA Detonator 3 41.09 drivers
OMFG! It worked! I dont know why or how but somehow both the WC3WE and LotR run now like a dream
no freezing or scrambled textured! I must admit, I was a happy camper.
=======
PART II
=======
Ok, so now my computer works, I am in hog heaven. The very next day, my friend comes over with XP
for me. I am like drueling. Well sure. So I backup all my personal stuff.
1. I install Windows XP Professional (not on top of but a fresh format in NTFS)
2. I download ALL service packs, criticals, DX 8.1a, etc.
3. I download all of my drivers but the ones for XP.
(So my BIOS stays the same of course, but I reinstall [after xp install and update] 4in1s, non leaked
41.09s, Audigy drivers)
So, lets review. I have xp pro with FULL AND COMPLETE updates. AND, I also have all of the new and
appropriate drivers for all my hardware. And here is what is weird. Warcraft 3 (the game not the editor)
now crashes within the first 60 seconds of play. It crashes three different ways.
1. The most common crash was a soft crash to the desktop. It displayed a message saying something about a
memmory dump.
2. This crash was odd, it would freeze the game and my computer, and my speakers would squeel.
3. The one pissed me off, but was the least common. My computer would just restart. NO warning or nothing.
I am like WTF? I wanna play damnit! So this is everything I do to try to fix the problem.
1. scandisk and defrag
2. 40.72, 40.71, 40.41, 30.82 drivers for my vid card.
3. turning off 3d positional audio
4. disabling sound card in device manager
5. reinstalling direct x 8.1a
6. runing it is opengl and swtnl
7. changing the PCI texture memory from 63MB to 2MB
8. uninstalling the 4in1 mobo drivers
9. installed memmory zipper
Let me note that the weirdest thing about everything is tried is not that NOT A SINGLE one of those solutions
worked, but that not a single one changed the outcome of the error. I GOT THE SAME 3 errors no matter what I changed!
At this point, I figure I will just no play WC3. I buy a new game called hegemoina (a german game that is fun but
highly graphicly intense). I install, get the newest patch (1.7) and play. SAME THING! I dont f***ing belive it! The
SAME exact three things happen in the first 60 seconds of play. A soft crash, a freeze with squeeling, or a random reboot.
Now I am freaking. The only two things I have not changed is the OS and BIOS.
1. I reformat, install win98se back on my machine.
2. I installed my NIC card drivers so i could get to internet.
3. I get ALL THE UPDATES FOR windows 98 se, DX8.1a, IE 6, service packs, criticals, etc.
4. Then I install all my drivers that are for win98. I got the 41.09, the 4in1, the audigy drivers.
5. I reinstall original bios, and set on fail safe settings.
SAME ERROR! now I have 2 games warcraft 3 1.04 and Hegemonia 1.07 and both crash about 60 secs into the game.
I still get the SAME THREE ERRORS! WTF! This is probably where i was dumbfounded. NOT ONLY HAVE I NOW CHANGED AND TWEAKED
EVERYTHING INCLUDING MY OS AND BIOS. BUT I AM BACK TO THE EXACT (AND I MEAN EXACT) SAME SETUP THAT I HAD WHEN EVERYTHING WAS WORKING
JUST FINE!
now you know my sad story. I have tried everything and failed. IS THERE ANYONE WHO IS SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT TO DO?
thanks for your time and goodluck.
Nicholas Kimble