McCain vs Obama

McCain or Obama

  • McCain

    Votes: 7 21.2%
  • Obama

    Votes: 19 57.6%
  • I would rather not even vote

    Votes: 5 15.2%
  • None of the Above

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • Total voters
    33

esb

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Varine, would you mind posting your source for the economy?

The UN is quite useless, quite obvious :p

And true about fighting for oil, but if we fought other countries, probably SOMEONE would fight back. Who's gonna fight over Iraq?

I don't believe our economy downfall is because of the war in Iraq, but could slightly change it.
 

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Obama has nice views, I can agree on most things he says but disagree on some important views regarding race. Also, I don't like politics in general, the theory with governments is nice. The American politics are problematic though. They never advance, one-dimensional old men that disregard everything except what they want to do.
 

New_U.S.

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Political issues will actually be more interesting to hear debated now at the very least. Please tell me I am not the only person wondering how the church someone belonged to or whether or not there was sniper fire occured were the "major issues". You get sick of stupid politcal maneuvers after a while.
 

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Political issues will actually be more interesting to hear debated now at the very least. Please tell me I am not the only person wondering how the church someone belonged to or whether or not there was sniper fire occured were the "major issues". You get sick of stupid politcal maneuvers after a while.

Yes, those are just political maneuvers to avoid the real issues.

War in Iraq: $530 Billion over 6 years
US Federal Budget of 1999 (when the economy was good and Bill Clinton was off refusing to take any action against terrorism)

There weren't any major terrorist attacks under Clinton's presidency. He just

presided over the longest period of peace-time economic expansion in American history, which included a balanced budget and a reported federal surplus of $559 billion.

SOURCE

9/11 was, and can never be called, a failure on anyone's part except for the Bush administration. This is because Bush himself received a memo that

contained a two-page section entitled "Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US," and refers to possible hijacking attempts by Osama bin Laden disciples and the existence of about 70 FBI investigations into alleged al-Qaeda cells operating within the United States

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The economy was managed much better in a time of Democratic presidency, liberal economic policies of regulation, and no pointless wars.
 

C-Death

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Although I support obama more, if we pull out immediately, theres a little something known as vietnam that seems familair .
(immediate pullout, then vietnam got pwned)

Why does this seem similar?

There is alot of truth to that. If we we pull out right now, It is in my opinion that the middle east would start owning one another. It would have been better if we never even went in there (duh)
 
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