simple question

[mute]

hey everyone .
if i want start make new map what should i need cuz some ppl tell me i should dl newgen and idk what is it .

 

[Sevion]

NewGen is a pack of tools. The most useful and widely used being JassHelper which allows for vJASS syntax.

If nothing else, get it for the fact that almost everything now-a-days uses vJASS.

 

[B0ndo]

But you can still make very nice maps through the GUI, if you're not that experienced then just use the GUI (standard WC3 editor with the dropdowns and stuff)

 

[NeuroToxin]

But you can still make very nice maps through the GUI, if you're not that experienced then just use the GUI (standard WC3 editor with the dropdowns and stuff)

This was a kind of useless post. But. To add on to it, Yes you can make gui triggers if you don't know JASS or vJASS, but, vJASS is needed, trust me. Everyone uses it, and it's needed. It also has many tools that map makers need.

 

[B0ndo]

This was a kind of useless post. But. To add on to it, Yes you can make gui triggers if you don't know JASS or vJASS, but, vJASS is needed, trust me. Everyone uses it, and it's needed. It also has many tools that map makers need.

I should learn vJASS and JASS some day, I still make maps in the GUI hehe

 

[NeuroToxin]

Yes, GUI just calls on JASS functions.

 

[mute]

ok thanks all but i wana know if u know any way to learn vJass and maybe there is some tools in WE for it .

 

[B0ndo]

JASS is simply the script language WE operates in, when you normally make a trigger it automatically generates the JASS code.

To write the JASS yourself you can enter the trigger editor and then select a trigger, or create a new one, then go to Edit in the top bar and click "Use Custom Code" or w/e it says, I don't remember clearly.

If you're new to the editor then you should play around with the GUI before jumping to the raw code. I'm a noob and use the GUI, but it works just fine for me so I don't bother learning JASS atm. Maybe some other time.

 

[KaerfNomekop]

Not completely true. If you have prior knowledge of programming code, you might an easier time using JASS instead of GUI, even if you're new to the editor.

 

[B0ndo]

True, the only scripting I do is HTML, CSS etc. And some au3 <- That's a whole lot of fun, I made a fish bot to WoW once (OFF-TOPIC)

 

[mute]

well i know 80% from GUI and 0 % from JASS .
i wonder if there is fast way to learn Jass and if there is any tools for Jass ?

 

[NeuroToxin]

There is no "fast" way to learn anything. At least, we aren't technologically advanced enough to attach something to your brain. Read tutorials, and/or the jasshelper manual

 

[Sevion]

Learning JASS is pretty simple if you have a logical mind. You can probably power through a couple tutorials and manuals and get enough to start scripting.

To be honest, you only need to learn the syntax. The rest is done for you or you figure out yourself. After learning the syntax, function names can all be derived from TESH (NewGen) or converted from GUI (not recommended at all ever in an infinity billion years). And ideas for scripts come from you.

The only thing that a manual can teach you is syntax and habits which are all you need to learn to begin.

 

[KaerfNomekop]

I barely knew HTML when I started mapping; Now I've got Javascript and C++ as well, making it a lot easier to understand JASS syntax.

 

[B0ndo]

Actually if you've never seen scripting before then the GUI is a great basic of scripting, an event occurs, if a condition macthes then do something, that's pretty much scripting described as short as possible.

 

[NeuroToxin]

But GUI makes JASS much harder to learn.

 

[Sevion]

Let's put it this way: If you learn GUI, you're essentially making it easier in the beginning but harder in the long run. If you learn (v)JASS, you're making it harder in the beginning, but easier in the long run.