Good vs. Evil

[salem]

Description:

Two sides: Good & Evil, fighting an epic battle, similar to an aos (aeon of strife) type of map, only it's a lot more customizable (play it your way).

Good:

They're here to prevent the Evil side from conquering their world, thus they must destroy that which brought their enemies to them, the Dark Portal.

Evil:

Through the Dark Portal, they come to conquer this world, only they have unexpected visitors waiting on the other side.

Setting:

Half the map belongs to the Good side, and the other half to the Evil side. Therefore, the Good side prospers good (green grass, birds, trees...) on its land where the Evil side prospers evil (cracked landscape, lava, bats...) on its land.

Both sides have 9 towers each and a last defence, a "defending hero".

Evil side

Good Side

Whole map

Features:

Units and Heroes start out with no abilities.
Customize your units by giving them abilities.
Customize your hero by giving it abilities.

Balance:

Both sides have exactly the same type of units (same stats only different models). The only thing that will change the tide of battle is the way that the players play the game for they all start out with exactly the same units.

Things like, what abilities you get and at what time, will greatly influence the battle.

All abilities are a straight copy from the melee game with no modifications done. Except for a few that would otherwise ruin the game.

It seems like there's another map carrying the same name, but I assure you, this one is quite different.

On a side note, i strongly recommend watching the tutorial if you're new, or reading the Quest (F9) info. This game is simple but you must understand how it works if you're to fully enjoy it.

 

[elmstfreddie]

Looks very pretty (that sounded homosexual?). Except there should be some kinda transition between good and evil, or like a GIANT portal at the middle of the map that you can walk through. That would be cool, a giant portal!

 

[Linkoln]

looks good, i dont play aoe type games so i cant compare it. Looks good tho.

p.s. Pretty is not gay, faaaabulas is gay.

 

[elmstfreddie]

Yeah, but gay guys say beautiful and pretty too. Point is I couldn't just say good it looks really really good lol

 

[IKilledKEnny]

[OFFTOPIC] I'll never understand racists.... [/OFFTOPIC]

Looks really cool, would you upload here alpha / beta test? I would love to try this map.


Edit:
Darn, sorry I'm blind you did post it!

Once I test it I'll give yaq feedback.

 

[IKilledKEnny]

Ok I played it a little, it's a nice DotA variation, I like it that you build your own hero but I would suggest making more availabe basic hero types at the start (I saw only 2) as well as making their models differnet (I'll post the trigger if you need PM me). Also towers and units are strong IMO.

Just my 2 cents good job on the map!!

 

[elmstfreddie]

I don't hate gays, just don't wanna sound like one... :nuts:

I tried hosting but my hosting has gone wacko so i'll test later.

 

[salem]

Ok I played it a little, it's a nice DotA variation, I like it that you build your own hero but I would suggest making more availabe basic hero types at the start (I saw only 2) as well as making their models differnet (I'll post the trigger if you need PM me). Also towers and units are strong IMO.

Just my 2 cents good job on the map!!

Thanks for trying the map, your comments are appreciated.

I never really intended for the heroes to be a lot stronger than the units (or the towers), because I'm trying to avoid having all focus on heroes. When I was making the map, I was looking for strategies, strategies that will involve both units and heroes. Think of the heroes as "side kicks".

I know that in most aos/dota type of games you play, the heroes are the main focus of the game, everything is about the heroes. It kinda turns into a hero arena game towards the end; the side with the strongest heroes wins.
In this map, it's the side with the best strategy that wins. And the best strategy will usually equally involve heroes and units.

The reason why there's a limited choice of hero types and models is because I wanted to finish a playable version of the map as soon as possible, and I said to myself, "well, I can always add more hero types and models afterwards" .

The map offers lots of possibilities, you can work on your hero or you can work on you units, or maybe a bit of both. But know this, a player that works on his units will always beat a player that works on his hero only. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't work on your hero...

This game is very situational, there's no "the best" strategy, it always depends on what the enemy does and how well you counter it.

 

[AngelShade]

Srry for this i didn't read all what you say, i am the other map creator of the same name realy, if you dont belive me take that map and look , after few weeks i change the name in Angel vs Devils but i abbandon the project cus i didnt have help with nothing. if you could help me its realy cool

 

[elmstfreddie]

Dude... If you didn't read what he had to say why the fuck did you post that? Names aren't copy righted on Warcraft maps, and the game has NOTHING to do with your map. Good vs Evil is a very broad name that 50 billion people have come up with before.

 

[AngelShade]

And i was appologise after that post, if you read it fully, and tell me the other maps that have my map name , from where to dl.
From my part i dont give a S**t about copyrights, coming from me thats a bulls**t so i didnt complain about that , i was just saying that i have a map that is exactly like his.

 

[salem]

You have a map that IS exactly like mine or that has the same name?

 

[elmstfreddie]

So far if he says it's like yours we can assume it's an AoS type map. In his world, DotA AoM AotZ blah blah blah are all the exactly the same. They are all different in big ways! Since AoS style maps are so popular, it's not suprising to see more than one with the name Good vs Evil!

 

[Miz]

Yes, With AOS like Naruto War Dota AoM Atoz there are alot of populary but you should name it something like no one would pick like umm.. War of the Worlds lol (CopyRighted) Lol but not really like war of the lands or something but Good Vs. Evil will make someone mad if that name is taking and already online so you might want to consider doing that


P.S. Don't Piss off CopyRights they have lawnyers

 

[elmstfreddie]

I'm a lawyer!

No, I'm not. Who woulda guessed

Anyhow, how about... Light vs Dark! It's like good vs evil, except... No one's used it before since it sucks so bad

I unno, good idea to change it as the other guy said though.

 

[Thanatos_820]

This looks like a DotA look-alike, but can use a few terrain modifications. The Good side looks a bit dull.

 

[salem]

ya, I'll be working on the terrain. Did you try the map or just commented on the screenshots?

 

[Thanatos_820]

Heheh, commented on screenshots, I'll donwload it now .

EDIT:

Okay, the Tome of Knowledge cost is WAY too low. People will be buying those only since the other tomes cost 150 gold. Make the Tome of Knowledge to 450 gold, making it a equal cost either way.

 

[salem]

450g? Claws of attack +12 dmg are 500g. Would you rather pay 450g and have +1 to all stats or pay 50g more and have +12 dmg. I left the tomes prices as they are (default). If the tome of knowledge is 450g, no one will buy it.
From the many times that I've played the map, no problems arose from the pricing of the tomes.

 

[elmstfreddie]

I suggest against tomes, they always lead to rigging n stuff. Avoid tomes being cheap.