Gaming PS3s seized in Sony-LG patent dispute: The Battle for Blu-Ray ensues

[tom_mai78101]

Dutch police confiscate several thousand PlayStation 3 consoles as electronics giants head for court in long-running Blu-ray row.

Dutch police have seized several thousand PlayStation 3s at Sony's biggest European warehouse in the latest stage of its acrimonious patent battle with LG.

LG has won a court order enabling it to seize all new PS3 across the Netherlands – including those already in Dutch homes – in a dispute that centres on Sony's allegedly infringing use of Blu-ray technology belonging to LG.

The injunction means that LG is tightening the net on PS3s in Europe, having already ordered customs officers to seize thousands of the consoles last week.

Sony will fight to have the blockade lifted at an emergency hearing in the Hague's civil court of justice tomorrow.

PS3s seized in Sony-LG patent dispute

Dutch police confiscate several thousand consoles as electronics giants head for court in long-running Blu-ray row. By Josh Halliday

www.theguardian.com

 

[Slapshot136]

wait, they can go into a person's home and take it? when the person has already bought it? wtf?

 

[Nenad]

Hide you're PS3's.

By the way this is totally fuc**d up. As much as i dislike the PS3 if this actually passes, what with all the problems sony's been having they might actually shut down the company (or severely limit it).

 

[Sim]

"Yo I'm a judge, I think LG is right, here's a court order to confiscate every PS3 in my country"
"Yea but... Sony has not even had a chance to defend itself"
"Do it".

That's basically what happened.
Nice one Holland, that pretty much looks like someone (judge? jury?) got heavily paid by LG. And I can't believe your system allows such injustice.
Especially that the court order stated LG merely believes their technology might probably be borrowed by Sony and put into their Bluray players inside the PS3.
Where's Sony's chance to defend itself in that mess?
It's indeed uncommon that one witnesses a one-sided court...

End of rant.

 

[sqrage]

Holland is going to shit. What a retarded country, they don't even believe in the principle of personal property?

 

[Varine]

Those countries make me laugh so hard. I want to go there and just rob banks, because apparently in some of these places like Holland and Norway I could get away with it. And in the event that they did find me, their legal/police systems appear to be a big joke so I'd probably get to keep the money, then when I go to court just be like "Yo dawg that ruling in LG's favor was bomb."

 

[Wummi]

Hide you're PS3's.

By the way this is totally fuc**d up. As much as i dislike the PS3 if this actually passes, what with all the problems sony's been having they might actually shut down the company (or severely limit it).

What kind of problems is the company having right now? I thought they were doing good apart from this battle over Blu-Ray.

Anyways, LG, since you got so many f**king PS3s now, and your company's name and logo aren't on them, care to give some to us for free? Then we'll forgive you for this.

 

[Varine]

Sony's had a few lawsuits recently. I don't think any of them would cause much damage, with the exception of this. They're too big for minor lawsuits over something not working right, or that rootkit thing, to do much of anything. However, I can see how this COULD push them over the edge, if they throw a lot of money at this and then they lose. But I'd imagine that they would be smart enough to back down before it got that far in the event it does.

 

[tom_mai78101]

LG lost the battle. Pays up to $180,000 per day.

Today's court session in The Hague, Netherlands over the PlayStation 3 dispute between LG and Sony has revealed some mind-boggling facts and figures and produced a major surprise. [Update] According to InsideGamer.nl as well as Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf and an independent source I have talked to, Sony has won this round and the court has lifted the prejudgment seizure order.

InsideGamer.nl reports that all seized PlayStations will have to be released, no more seizures will take place, and LG has to pay legal fees amounting to €130,000 (approximately US$180,000). For each day that LG fails to comply, it will be fined at a rate of €200,000 (approximately US$275,000).

I have learned that the key reason for the court to lift the seizure order was that this kind of measure didn't seem fair given the history of negotiations between the parties. The ruling didn't only overturn the prejudgment seizure order but also told LG to inform the Dutch customs authority and ensure that no further confiscations would happen.

This is only related to the prejudgment seizure order: Sony can resume the distribution of PlayStations across Europe for now, but there will still be a full-fledged legal proceeding to determine whether there is an infringement (and if so, how much money Sony owes LG). But Sony's most pressing problem has been solved.

Source.

 

[Sim]

Good for them.

 

[Nenad]

Good for the win.

@ Daxtreme They actually ended up being the worst console of this gen, selling less copies than the Wii or XBOX and way less games. Not enough games are being made for the PS3 because of the high cost ratio towards say a Wii game, and the amount of players playing on the XBOX (even though most are just pricks). The PSP was also a failure, sadly because there are a lot of good games for it and the console itself is good, but expensive. So overall they did the worst in this gen, while nintendo came on top. Didn't really think they were doing horribly, but i had heard that they had to lay off people because they couldn't afford salaries (may not be accurate at all, no link on the internet).

@Varine

And in the event that they did find me, their legal/police systems appear to be a big joke so I'd probably get to keep the money, then when I go to court just be like "Yo dawg that ruling in LG's favor was bomb."

The legal system in Norway is relatively forgiving in the time you spend in jail and the conditions in jail are better than in other countries, but in no way will you actually get away with anything here. The crime rate is low and there is a reason: Everyone is well off. But in no way would i say that the police here is a joke, except that you get nicer treatment than if you would, say, rob a bank in the US. Also, the fact that you can't get a gun here, discourages violence. All in all, the fact that the crime is so low doesn't necesseraly imply that you're gonna get away with the said crime XD

 

[Wiseman_2]

@ Daxtreme They actually ended up being the worst console of this gen, selling less copies than the Wii or XBOX and way less games. Not enough games are being made for the PS3 because of the high cost ratio towards say a Wii game, and the amount of players playing on the XBOX (even though most are just pricks). The PSP was also a failure, sadly because there are a lot of good games for it and the console itself is good, but expensive. So overall they did the worst in this gen, while nintendo came on top. Didn't really think they were doing horribly, but i had heard that they had to lay off people because they couldn't afford salaries (may not be accurate at all, no link on the internet).

Question: How is this relevant to anything anyone has posted in this thread?

Either way this turns out in the end, I'm glad LG lost the "first round". Not even allowing Sony chance to defend itself was ludicrous.

 

[Varine]

Earlier he said that he thought Sony was having financial problems and was adding more to it.

 

[deepthroat]

Questions? Questions? Who is right? Who is wrong? In some countries like England, the UK Sony is reportedly part of a group(s) called FACT? Federation against copyright theft? They reportedly prosecute others? In the US, Sony is being sued by people who have come together in a class action lawsuit in regard to, over the removal of sorts of Linux? Some allege false advertising? Now why would Sony ever want to alienates its customers if that is what is being done? Has Sony been, is Sony infringing on the work of anyone(s) in Playstation 3? Maybe FACT knows? The law is supposed to be for all equally?

 

[FireCat]

Federation against copyright theft?

In this case it should have been

Federation against "police confiscate" theft?

Well, you paid for it, it's yours! pure and simple. It's not the consumers fault ! Just leave them alone. for fuck's sake.