Help in English

[Hatebreeder]

Prologue: So, I got this new English teacher in school and she talks english... well, weirdly.

The following sentences don't seem quite right IMO (except for the 2nd one), but I can't explain what exactly makes them wrong/right.

List of weird things that I've heard/read:

• Today, I don't give you homework...
• The excerpt is written in/from... perspective
• verbally abuse the education system...

If these are wrong/correct in some way, would you mind explaining brief whats right/wrong?

 

[Wiseman_2]

Well all of those could make sense depending on the context, except maybe the first, which should be "won't" instead of "don't" as far as I can see.

The last one doesn't really make much sense in terms of the subject but I guess it still looks correct.

 

[Monsterous]

List of weird things that I've heard/read:

• Today, I don't give you homework...
• The excerpt is written in/from... perspective
• verbally abuse the education system...

First one should be won't.
Second one should have the perspective. Replace perspective with view, "the excerpt is written in view" doesn't make sense. "...written in the view" does. Same with perspective.
Third one appears right, but really should be educational system.


Hopefully im right, otherwise sadface

 

[Whitesock]

Second one should have the perspective. Replace perspective with view, "the excerpt is written in view" doesn't make sense. "...written in the view" does. Same with perspective.

I think it's more, "The excerpt is written from a ___ perspective."

 

[sqrage]

The excerpt is written from [Bob's] perspective.

 

[Hatebreeder]

For example:
"The Excerpt is written in/from the 3rd person limited narrative perspective"

and this:

verbally abuse the education system...

sounded also very awkward to me, since you don't abuse a system itself, rather in schools or students. Eh, I can't put it into words =/

But thanks alot =)
Anyone know why it shouldn't be "don't"? My teacher said it's a double negative blablabla something... I didn't really get what she meant :x
So yeah, I thought I'd be going crazy because I've never heard/seen such an expression in such a context... There were alot more than just that though; she just sounded like she was correct and I didn't really have any evidence or something like that to oppose her, since all the English I know I learnt from Forums or my Brother.

So yeah, WTF.

 

[sqrage]

Believe it or not, some of the teachers here in NYC speak worse English than your examples... Not the English teachers though, at least.

 

[Hatebreeder]

Believe it or not, some of the teachers here in NYC speak worse English than your examples... Not the English teachers though, at least.

How did they even get the permission to teach then?

We get scolded if we do something wrong grammar-wise... Which degrades our grades by 1-2 (depending on how fatal/obvious the mistake was).

EDIT: in Tests, that is

 

[esb]

I once had a spanish teacher (10th grade) that didn't know spanish...

 

[Hatebreeder]

I once had a spanish teacher (10th grade) that didn't know spanish...

Didn't that make you furious just a bit?

I mean, I'm not quite done with school yet (2 years to go) and I can't expect anything good to come from the next 2 years since I am very positive that I'll have fundamental flaws in my English.

Sucks.

 

[Romek]

> Anyone know why it shouldn't be "don't"? My teacher said it's a double negative blablabla something... I didn't really get what she meant :x
Don't is present tense. Won't is future tense. I don't see where double-negatives come into this.

 

[sqrage]

Anyone know why it shouldn't be "don't"? My teacher said it's a double negative blablabla something... I didn't really get what she meant :x

Don't = Do not.

"Today, I do not give you homework." Definitely doesn't sound proper.

Wont = Will not.

"Today, I will not give you homework." Sounds proper.

 

[Cheddar]

Even English teachers speak colloquially.

 

[Hatebreeder]

Don't = Do not.

"Today, I do not give you homework." Definitely doesn't sound proper.

Wont = Will not.

"Today, I will not give you homework." Sounds proper.

Yes, but if you translate it:
Heute gebe ich euch keine Hausaufgaben auf (Don't Version)
Heute werde ich euch keine Hausaufgaben auf geben (Won't Version)

Both are correct, she said
So eh, I guess the "Sounds Proper" argument won't be very valid =/ But I'll try =)

 

[Slapshot136]

don't = short for do not
won't = short for will not

I do not
I will not

the first does make sense, but not in the context that you gave (I don't give homework) would work, but when you add "today" then it fails

and correct me if im wrong(google translate is failing me), but what you wrote in German translates to:

today I give no homework

here the object (homework) is negated, as opposed to the verb (give) being negated, right?

 

[esb]

Didn't that make you furious just a bit?
Sucks.

I know spanish. I'm mexican. We learned/did work from the books, not her. So eh... same thing sorta really.

 

[ReVolver]

I know spanish. I'm mexican. We learned/did work from the books, not her. So eh... same thing sorta really.

I had a teacher who was teaching kids Castilian Spanish in my class, I thought he had a broken Spanish until I realized that Spain's Spanish sucks really bad :thdown: if it isn't the Lisps that gets you, it's the Arabic "J-KH" sounds they do

Everyone who is learning Spanish should learn it from L.A not Spain

 

[13lade619]

"The excerpt is written from in/from/a/the ___ perspective."

AFAIK, these are all correct. Kinda different to explain but there are subtle differences in meaning.

 

[Zakyath]

Yes, but if you translate it:
Heute gebe ich euch keine Hausaufgaben auf (Don't Version)
Heute werde ich euch keine Hausaufgaben auf geben (Won't Version)

Both are correct, she said
So eh, I guess the "Sounds Proper" argument won't be very valid =/ But I'll try =)

What's interesting about languages is that they have differences. What makes sense in german doesn't necessarily make sense when translated to english.

 

[Sim]

It does not sound proper in English.

The other languages it translates into are not relevant.