* Hatchery Havoc *

AceHart

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In the beginning was the word.
And the word said: "I need a progress bar demo map".
And the map was with Ace.
And Ace saw it is good.
And it evolved into Hatchery Havoc.


A 4 players, free for all, quick, 32x32, Barrens map.

Estimated average game time with 4 players: under 10 minutes.

Use your eggs to hatch fighting units.
Protect your Town Hall.
Destroy all other Town Halls.

Last player standing wins.

There's a couple upgrades available.
Most notably your Town Hall, which, once upgraded, allows for additional unit types to be hatched.
Use them wisely, there's no time for much "Let's see, what do I research now?"...


As usual, you may add a computer player.
They do make for a decent opponent.
Actually, on your first couple plays, chances are they'll completely own you.


Even though there's only a couple hours of work in this map,
it's fully playable, bug free (famous last words),
complete with multiboard, a working victory / defeat (I think) and an AI that puts up a fight.

Oh, and, of course, the progress bars :)


Good luck.

Have fun.


Yours,
AceHart


- Found any bugs?
Unlikely, but, obviously, not impossible.
Try to come up with something more detailed than "It doesn't work".

- The comp owns!
Try some more.

- Balance???
Map balance is clearly defined: the more you own, the more you own.

- Help me Obi Wan
You're my only hope.

- There's weird numbers on the screen!
Hm... some debug trigger I missed.
 

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Master

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In the beginning was the word.
And the word said: "I need a progress bar demo map".
And the map was with Ace.
And Ace saw it is good.
And it evolved into Hatchery Havoc.
Wow, you surely use a weird way to introduce your map, but it is very intelligent.
I will dowload it when I get home.

Actually, on your first couple plays, chances are they'll completely own you.
Hard - difficulty AI? good :)

I will be also checking Stairway to Heaven.
I will leave feeback when I see them. Added a reputation (the comment worths more for you I think).
 

Oninuva

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Meh, I'll take a look later!

Sounds like a fun MINI GAME
 

Darthfett

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Wow that is a nice game! I don't like footies because it's just one kind of guy that spawns automatically, and it's pretty much a tech race, but this one gives a bunch of different types of techs, and 4 different kinds of units to upgrade. They all have their pros and cons (although in the end you pretty much have to use knights), and it's really fun to play!

It would be awesome if you added a few more types of units, or used the races (Orc, Human, Night Elf, and Undead) instead of automatically human.

The computers are really good, and very fun to play against, even if there is no social part to it. It took me around 5 games to be able to win, but each time it was really fun.

You might want to increase the bounty on the creeps in the middle, they're a little bit low. :eek:
 

Thanatos_820

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Okay, I beat the game, in Single Player, and without cheats. I beat the CPU with several Footmen and Knights. I used very few Riflemen and no Sorceresses so the Footmen and Knights can do the work (Getting Gold). And AceHart, I found a way to not dying to the CPUs:

1. Don't use or hatch Riflemen or Sorceresses, they don't have the Pillage ability.
2. Get to high tech as soon as possible, especially when you have a small to medium army!
3. Get to Tier 2 after the few first seconds of the game.

To show proof, I have the whole replay and it was done in 7:07 minutes. Here's the link:

http://files.filefront.com/Last_Replayw3g/;6491766;;/fileinfo.html
 

ayumilove

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omgomg acehart makes a map !!! wah pro admin makes map XD

im sure acehart is super creative with the loads of green box he has
and like 2-3 years experience in warcraft editor o_O?

i'ma check the map XD


[edit]
ok i tried the map, very cool to play XD

looks like zerg hatchery o_O

anyways the AI is kinda smart XD

it beat me first round o.o"
 

SFilip

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> Found any bugs?
It doesn't work...in multiplayer.
You only have one force so the message "all players are in the same team" would always come up.

Apart from that nice job ;)
 

Oninuva

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I just tried it, very nice. I completly owned the computer... I'll post a replay later so I can prove it xD 5/5 Starts

This can get addiciting lol
 

AceHart

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Update v1.1

Changelog 1.1:

- BNet compliance
- Hatched units depend on your race
- Improved value of casters
- Removed researches no one ever uses anyway
- Streamlined "Egg" handling
- Vastly improved AI (read: minor tweaks)
- Creeps have higher health and bounty
- Slightly improved terrain



Q: <Unit type> doesn't seem to fit in.
A: Any suggestions?

Q: More Eggs?
A: No.

Q: Upgrade for structure hitpoints?
A: No.

Q: I need a Hero!
A: Bonnie Tyler (1986?)

Q: More players?
A: On a 32x32 map?

Q: Cool items?
A: What for?
 

ayumilove

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mmm ace

is there a new hereo for your map? i see you mentioned bonie tyler

is it a str? or int>? or agi hero? <3

lol, oni, me still learning how to make map XD

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edit

my fastest game play for this hatchery havoc for 4v4 is 5 min 22 sec
 

Jazradel

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Bonnie Tyler is a Welsh singer. :)

Awesome map. I beat the AI first time simply by massing footmen though. I'll play the new version and check.
 

SFilip

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Perhaps you could add a hotkey (Esc?) for selecting those eggs...the main building ability isn't that useful, for me at least.
Or add a dummy hero to make use of F1 for this purpose?

> SFilip, when will you be making a cool map like AceHart??
I kind of came to these forums in the first place to learn how to do it...but it turned out that I wasn't the only clueless person around so I started helping and all...well anyway I have a project on pending currently, hopefully it will reach what all previous did not (10% complete). Stay tuned :p
 

AceHart

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> a hotkey (Esc?) for selecting those eggs

The "Town Hall" has one (F8). Though it also moves the camera and isn't always available.

And, while on the subject:
The Town Hall has a "Rally" button...
 

emjlr3

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if ever i get a chance to play, I will :)

is that that map we were talking about item ideas with? and the whole mana drain pushing mana over the top randomly?
 

Chocobo

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omgomg acehart makes a map !!! wah pro admin makes map XD

im sure acehart is super creative with the loads of green box he has
and like 2-3 years experience in warcraft editor o_O?

i'ma check the map XD

[offtopic]
you dont beat the cpu
cpu means central processing unit that processes millions of data within
split second.

so, it should be said , i beat the AI (artificial intelligent) of the computer player in warcraft XD <3

jkjk

hehehe dont get mad lolx

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[edit]
ok i tried the map, very cool to play XD

looks like zerg hatchery o_O

anyways the AI is kinda smart XD

it beat me first round o.o"

The whole list he made there :

Invaders of the Lost Cause
Necro Corp.
Stairway to Heaven
Hatchery Havoc

Edit : Not in map database?
 

AceHart

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> is that that map we were talking about?

No.
But play it anway. If only to see a slight variation in possible gameplays.


> Invaders of the Lost Cause

Ah, yes... memories... preliminary testing "release"...
Though the terrain... is a sight to behold.


> Not in map database?

Necro Corp should be there already, Stairway to Heaven might make it.
Hatchery Havoc most likely will.
 

2-P

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Units which are hatched while the Town Hall upgrade is being completed are stillbirths (the egg "explodes" but no unit appears).
 

Oninuva

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The game is so easy to win by massing footies btw. Also upgrade your main center to level 2 as soon as you start. 3x Eggs will pwnzorzorozorozrozorozrozrozrozrozorozorozrozrozorozrozorozrozr. Sorry but it seems like I figured out the game lololololololololololololololololollol. Must be the caffine -_-.

Attached is my 3 minute victorious victory.

Edit: damn attachment cap... i'll upload on differrnt place.
 

chovynz

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Yeah what oni said. I did it in 5.
Really good map though! Cool idea.

Suggestions: its easy to win if you get your units over near a base - they automatically kill newly spawned eggs b4 they get the progress bar. So the opponent ends up with no way of defending themselves. I know it makes sense, but it's...too easy.

IDK. I had a few suggestions for solving this but they all don't fit into the map. I'll put them here anyway in case you decide to use em (all of these are OR). Make eggs smaller. Make eggs invul. Make eggs invis: only detectable by later units - ie sorceress or another unique unit?

I didn't even get to knights :(. :p

Mind you....it WAS the computer I played against...Im going to test it against a human.
Lol. I got trashed. I couldn't see any problems with it. It's a fun little game for when you wanna kick back and just whack stuff! Good Job Ace!
 
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