The Scientology thread - the OG!

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Talk about indoctrination from an early age.
This might sound anti-religious but I assure you I believe people should be free to practice whatever religion takes their fancy. I do not believe that religion should be in schools. The rules are most often conflicting with those of the enviroment, and inflict on those that do not wish to follow them.
My sister, for example, goes to a school where the majority is muslim. This means that the meat must be halal, even if that means my sister - not a muslim - has to eat it too (fortunatly she takes her own lunch). I could go on but I won't :)

Also, I am not anti-muslim, I was merely using it as an example.

I am not against the people who practice Scientology rather I am against "the Church" part of it. From what I have read alot of practicioners of Scientology have actually benefited from it. The facts as I have seen them show though that the Church itself operates itself like a Cult and is shamming people about it being a religion and is only out for the money and the power.

I am against the Church part of Scientology. The elite few that are controlling this sham. I have nothing against the followers and respect there right to practice any religion they want.
 

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I am sorry but Scientology is not a religion. It is a total scam. I sure hope that the people that are in it wise up to that fact. At least Germany is progressive enough to recognize it for what it is.
Bah... People got the right to practice whatever they want, as long as that which they practice does not harm human or animals, nor one's rights in society. I must agree that the kindergarten deserved to be shut down, if the parents of the attending children didn't know that it was run by Scientology, which I think isn't the case. "It's not a religion", well define a religion for me then. If Scientology isn't a religion, then Buddhism isn't either. There isn't major differences between Scientology and Buddhism, except that Scientology cost money and is shrouded in mystery.

To sum up, this is bull ****!
 

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Not to offend anyone in this post or picture

The payment Scientology. Cult or Religion?

This is the major reason, I don't consider them a religion, because, Have you ever been in a Temple or Church. Have they ever told you to thats theirs a membership fee? No...
Really if you didn't have the money for a bible or (i forget the names of the other holy books in other religions) they may actually give you a free book if they have them left.

This is why I don't see them as a religion, because religions aren't money making companies. There places for people to worship or find hope and I see none of this in Scientology.

Thats my 2 cents
 
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ArmedCitizen said:
So Germany is anti religious when it isn't the majority's choice? I guess time repeats itself quite well.

Scientology has been marked as a business by the US Government.

Tom Jones said:
well define a religion for me then

The belief of a divine god existing.

Mizuio Ken said:
This is the major reason, I don't consider them a religion, because, Have you ever been in a Temple or Church. Have they ever told you to thats theirs a membership fee? No...
Really if you didn't have the money for a bible or (i forget the names of the other holy books in other religions) they may actually give you a free book if they have them left.

This is why I don't see them as a religion, because religions aren't money making companies. There places for people to worship or find hope and I see none of this in Scientology.

Thats my 2 cents
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I agree, I'm Christian and I got a free study bible from the church in 2nd grade.

Our family does give donations, but that money funds the church and some of it goes to the pastors for their salary.
 

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TAXPAYERS are picking up the bill to send police officers and bureaucrats on a controversial personal enlightenment course.

Victoria Police staff and public servants have been sent on the "transformation" seminars run by Landmark Education, which was set up by a former Scientologist.

Police and Emergency Services Minister Bob Cameron has confirmed at least 37 police and public sector staff attended courses between 2001 and 2006 - at a cost of more than $16,602.

Landmark Education has previously taken legal action against newspapers, magazines, websites and television programs that have criticised it.

 
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The church is seeking a restraining order to stop a new round of protests.

CLEARWATER - With the Internet activist group Anonymous threatening a second round of protests against Scientology this weekend, the Clearwater-based church went to court late Tuesday, filing a petition for a temporary restraining order.

The petition was filed just before the close of court Tuesday afternoon, and the St. Petersburg Times could not obtain a copy of the petition.

Pat Harney, a spokeswoman for the Church of Scientology in Clearwater, confirmed the church had filed a request for a temporary restraining order, but on the advice of counsel, she refused to provide a copy of the lawsuit or discuss who it seeks to restrain.

 
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says i dont have permission to access page
 

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lol, check the comments...

by anon 03/12/08 04:56 AM
This is just an attempted subversion of the Constitution, plain and simple.

by Anonymous 03/12/08 04:56 AM
"We are taking every security measure we can," Harney said. "To keep our cult running."

by anonymous 03/12/08 04:50 AM
we mean you know harm. we do not protest you, or your beliefs. we protest the practices that your leaders have allowed to happen. expect us. we are legion.

by debbs 03/12/08 04:37 AM
The Church of Scientology is actually trying to subvert the First Amendment. No more abuse by the CO$.

by Anonymous 03/12/08 03:25 AM
Hahahahaha! Whom will this TRO be against? See you on March 15 for another PEACEFUL PROTEST.

by anon 03/12/08 02:46 AM
If the CO$ has nothing to hide then why do they fear any attention on them by peaceful protests?

by Tammy 03/12/08 02:29 AM
Thank you OSA for giving anonymous another example of the COS trying to take free speech away!

by LRon was a CON 03/12/08 02:28 AM
Obvious FAIL $cientology. OBVIOUS.
 

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A .pdf copy of the actual injunction is located here. There are a few bits that exhibit strong language.

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Bottom of page 10 and top of page 11:
On February 15, 2008, the Church of Scientology of San Francisco received a bomb threat. A person wearing a mask placed a box just inside the San Francisco church building. The police were called and the bomb squad evacuated the building. The bomb squad shot compressed water in the package, which turned out to be filled with candy and confetti. There was a message on the box signed from Anonymous that read:

"To: All Scientologists - Sorry we're late, but we still want you to be our valentine - Anonymous."
 
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CLEARWATER - After weeks of enduring Internet video taunts from a group called Anonymous, the Church of Scientology posted a YouTube video of its own Wednesday.

It includes what Scientology claims are video snippets from Anonymous, threatening phone messages and obscene e-mails sent to various Scientology churches.

Scientology also says members of the Internet activist group Anonymous made, or encouraged others to make, 8,139 harassing or threatening phone calls to the church. Anonymous sent 3.6-million "malicious" e-mails to Scientologists, the church contends, committed 10 acts of vandalism at various churches and made 22 bomb threats and eight death threats.

The torrent of alleged harassment and threats was the underpinning of two church lawsuits filed Tuesday and Wednesday in Pinellas Circuit Court, each seeking to bar Anonymous members from coming within 500 feet of Scientology buildings in Clearwater during a planned protest this weekend.


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That is a major win for Anonymous with Media coverage. For Scientology <-- Epic Fail. This is the kind of publicity that can make someone desperate. I can just see Scientology terrorizing its own just to put the blame on the Anonymous protest - that tactic it is clearly Scientology's MO. Nice Job Anonymous! TH is pleased.
 
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Scientology also says members of the Internet activist group Anonymous made, or encouraged others to make, 8,139 harassing or threatening phone calls to the church. Anonymous sent 3.6-million "malicious" e-mails to Scientologists, the church contends, committed 10 acts of vandalism at various churches and made 22 bomb threats and eight death threats.

If the bomb and death threats are true, that is definetly counter-productive.

I think half the attention towards Scientology is misunderstanding
 
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