Computer vs Players (Zombie / Kodo Tag) Script, AI, Tutorial, Guide?

lindenkron · Jan 9, 2009

Anyone know where to find some help on this? Because my zombies are acting like retards..

A guide or explanation on how to make something like this would be most beloved, I like how it works in Kodo tag etc. They have a tendency to go to a location of a player, when they get there and the player is gone, they walk back to their spawn point and just stand there..

No idea how to fix

tried for a few days now.

Builder Bob · Jan 9, 2009

lindenkron said:
my zombies are acting like retards..

What do you expect? They are zombies after all

On a more serious note, would you accept help in Jass?

1RingToRule · Jan 9, 2009

I might suggest using a "Time - Periodic Event" and reorder the zombies to go to the players location each time the trigger runs. i.e. don't let the wc3 AI do anything as I often find wc3's AI never does exactly as I want it too. (I don't know if that's exactly what you wanna do as I haven't played Kodo tag.)

Hope that helped,

1RingToRule

lindenkron · Jan 9, 2009

Builder Bob said:
On a more serious note, would you accept help in Jass?

I'd prefere it being GUI, because I don't feel like learning JASS

Is there anyway you can detect of a unit gets to the point that it has been ordered to, but just "stops" or decided to go back (why ever they do that) ?

So I can tell it to move to the new location of the player if that happens?

free_killing · Jan 9, 2009

Just make a region called A, when a unit enters A, entering unit equal to Kodo, then force it to patrol to random point in playable area.

I am not sure if it would work, but i guess.. becasue of if it patrol, it will attack every near things, but it will come back, and when it comes back, it gets a new location to move to

Edit: so the trigger would be like this:

Trigger:

Kodo Patrol
- Events
  - Unit - A unit enters A <gen>
- Conditions
  - (Unit-type of (Entering unit)) Equal to Kodo
- Actions
  - Set MyLocation = (Random point in (Playable map area))
  - Unit - Order (Entering unit) to Patrol To MyLocation
  - Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_MyLocation)

Azlier · Jan 9, 2009

My favorite zombie movement was done in vJass, but this essentially the GUI version.

Trigger:

Example
- Events
  - Time - Every 0.02 seconds of game time
- Conditions
- Actions
  - Set tempGroup = (Units owned by Player 12 (Brown) matching ((Current order of (Matching unit)) Equal to (==) (Order(none))))
  - Unit Group - Pick every unit in tempGroup and do (Actions)
    - Loop - Actions
      - Set tempPoint = (Random point in (Playable map area))
      - Unit - Order (Picked unit) to Attack Ground tempPoint
      - Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_tempPoint)
  - Custom script: call DestroyGroup(udg_tempGroup)

Unless you put in the condition demanding that the order be none, you get get some zombie confusion and they will tend to hang around the map center.

lindenkron · Jan 9, 2009

azlier, your post got me to make this:

Trigger:

OrdersAttack
- Events
  - Time - Every 5.00 seconds of game time
- Conditions
- Actions
  - -------- ALL THE MARINES THAT ARE ALIVE --------
  - Set TempUnitGroup[1] = (Units in (Playable map area))
  - Unit Group - Pick every unit in TempUnitGroup[1] and do (Actions)
    - Loop - Actions
      - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
        
        If - Conditions
        
        Or - Any (Conditions) are true
        
        Conditions
        
        (Owner of (Picked unit)) Equal to Neutral Passive
        
        (Owner of (Picked unit)) Equal to Player 12 (Brown)
        
        (Life of (Picked unit)) Equal to 1.00
        
        Then - Actions
        
        Unit Group - Remove (Picked unit) from TempUnitGroup[1]
        
        Else - Actions
  - -------- ALL UNITS OWNED BY PLAYER 12 BROWN --------
  - Set TempUnitGroup[2] = (Units in (Playable map area))
  - Unit Group - Pick every unit in TempUnitGroup[2] and do (Actions)
    - Loop - Actions
      - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
        
        If - Conditions
        
        (Owner of (Picked unit)) Not equal to Player 12 (Brown)
        
        Then - Actions
        
        Unit Group - Remove (Picked unit) from TempUnitGroup[2]
        
        Else - Actions
  - -------- ORDER BROWN TO ATTACK RANDOM UNIT IN TempUnitGroup[1] --------
  - Unit Group - Pick every unit in TempUnitGroup[2] and do (Actions)
    - Loop - Actions
      - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
        
        If - Conditions
        
        (Current order of (Picked unit)) Equal to (Order(none))
        
        Then - Actions
        
        Unit - Order (Picked unit) to Attack (Random unit from TempUnitGroup[1])
        
        Else - Actions
  - Custom script: call DestroyGroup (udg_TempUnitGroup[1])
  - Custom script: call DestroyGroup (udg_TempUnitGroup[2])

Seems all good? Gonna go test it with some mates as soon as they get out of their map

CaptDeath · Jan 9, 2009

try macking the interval smaller are they gunna stand like a retard for 5 seconds before reciving new orders
also you did not set

Trigger:

Unit Group - Remove (Picked unit) from TempGroup

in the trigger

Azlier · Jan 9, 2009

GAH! A massive block of GUI! It burnsssss!

Anyway, if your marines can build barricades and such, this won't work. You are ordering the zombies to attack the marines directly, not attack moving to their position. Even without barricades, it can cause zombies to walk by humans, ignoring them, to hit their target.

lindenkron · Jan 9, 2009

azlier said:
GAH! A massive block of GUI! It burnsssss!

Anyway, if your marines can build barricades and such, this won't work. You are ordering the zombies to attack the marines directly, not attack moving to their position. Even without barricades, it can cause zombies to walk by humans, ignoring them, to hit their target.

Hmm, true I see your point, and yes walls can be build. But there is no "attack-move" in my dropdown menu at "Attack". How to fix this?

Edit; Atleast it's leakless GUI!! Ha!

CaptDeath said:
try macking the interval smaller are they gunna stand like a retard for 5 seconds before reciving new orders
also you did not set

Trigger:

Unit Group - Remove (Picked unit) from TempGroup

in the trigger

This was hotfixed within 15 sec, I can't believe you managed to see it haha. Well it's been changed

Azlier · Jan 9, 2009

There is truly no such order as Attack Move. I blame Blizzard for doing that. They have to muck things up to make it "easier for the users". Just issue the order "attack" on a point instead of a unit.

lindenkron · Jan 9, 2009

Ah, think I found a solution. This seems good?

Trigger:

Unit - Order (Picked unit) to Attack-Move To (Position of (Random unit from TempUnitGroup[1]))

CaptDeath · Jan 9, 2009

yes
the draw back being that a poor zombie could end up tracking some one a hole game w/o ever being seen lol depending on the strat of the player

lindenkron · Jan 9, 2009

CaptDeath said:
yes
the draw back being that a poor zombie could end up tracking some one a hole game w/o ever being seen lol depending on the strat of the player

Players cant run in this map, they'd end up getting raped .. I think xD Atleast im trying to design it as a "build base" map.

Having a slight issue. The zombies once they get to the point they move back to their original spawn point.

I read somewhere this was due to some AI setting or something? How to avoid that.

Trollvottel · Jan 9, 2009

are your zombies owned by neutral player?

Position of (Random unit from TempUnitGroup[1])

dont forget this thingy, the point leaks so you got to store it in a variable etc, you know...

Azlier · Jan 9, 2009

You're using Neutral Hostile, aren't you? Simplest solution:

Go to Advanced > Gameplay Constants > Creeps

And change these to 9999999.:
Creeps - Guard Distance
Creeps - Guard Return Distance
Creeps - Guard Return Time (sec)

Another solution: Have the zombies belong to an actual player.

duyen · Jan 9, 2009

Trollvottel said:
are your zombies owned by neutral player?

This is the first question that should be asked, surprised it hasn't come up earlier.

Everyone else's help is useless if they are owned by a neutral player.

lindenkron · Jan 9, 2009

Trollvottel said:
are your zombies owned by neutral player?

Position of (Random unit from TempUnitGroup[1])

dont forget this thingy, the point leaks so you got to store it in a variable etc, you know...

Why does it leak?

No they are owned by Player 12 Brown

Azlier · Jan 9, 2009

Position of (Any Unit imaginable, even the ones that don't exist because it goes to the center of the map by default) leaks until you remove it. Always.

lindenkron · Jan 9, 2009

azlier said:
Position of (Any Unit imaginable, even the ones that don't exist because it goes to the center of the map by default) leaks until you remove it. Always.

Trigger:

OrdersAttack
- Events
  - Time - Every 2.00 seconds of game time
- Conditions
- Actions
  - -------- ALL THE MARINES THAT ARE ALIVE --------
  - Set TempUnitGroup[1] = (Units in (Playable map area))
  - Unit Group - Pick every unit in TempUnitGroup[1] and do (Actions)
    - Loop - Actions
      - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
        
        If - Conditions
        
        Or - Any (Conditions) are true
        
        Conditions
        
        (Owner of (Picked unit)) Equal to Neutral Passive
        
        (Owner of (Picked unit)) Equal to Player 12 (Brown)
        
        (Life of (Picked unit)) Equal to 1.00
        
        Then - Actions
        
        Unit Group - Remove (Picked unit) from TempUnitGroup[1]
        
        Else - Actions
  - -------- ALL UNITS OWNED BY PLAYER 12 BROWN --------
  - Set TempUnitGroup[2] = (Units in (Playable map area))
  - Unit Group - Pick every unit in TempUnitGroup[2] and do (Actions)
    - Loop - Actions
      - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
        
        If - Conditions
        
        (Owner of (Picked unit)) Not equal to Player 12 (Brown)
        
        Then - Actions
        
        Unit Group - Remove (Picked unit) from TempUnitGroup[2]
        
        Else - Actions
  - -------- ORDER TempUnitGroup[2] TO ATTACK RANDOM UNIT IN TempUnitGroup[1] --------
  - Unit Group - Pick every unit in TempUnitGroup[2] and do (Actions)
    - Loop - Actions
      - If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
        
        If - Conditions
        
        (Current order of (Picked unit)) Equal to (Order(none))
        
        Then - Actions
        
        Set TempLocation = (Position of (Random unit from TempUnitGroup[1]))
        
        Unit - Order (Picked unit) to Attack-Move To TempLocation
        
        Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_TempLocation)
        
        Else - Actions
  - Custom script: call DestroyGroup (udg_TempUnitGroup[1])
  - Custom script: call DestroyGroup (udg_TempUnitGroup[2])

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