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Zakyath

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if you could make it illegal to be high in public places, many "soft" drugs could probably be legalized...
 

FireCat

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I still don't see any reason to legalize it.
and "It would decrease criminal activity", I dont think so, criminals will always find other drugs.
 

ArmedCitizen

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Think about it man. How many crack users do you know in your school? Maybe a handful. How many potheads do you know? At least in mine, its about 1/3. That is a drastically larger market for drug lords. Not to mention pot is extremely easy to grow and harvest. Now if you legalize weed, that one 1/3 will become law abiding citizens, they won't have to create elaborate schemes to hide their usage rather than focus on more important things (which I must admit there probably aren't much if they truly are potheads), and it will greatly disrupt the flow of drug money.

Not to mention that it would be easier for people who realize they have problems to find help. Even though it is much easier to break your weed addiction rather than legalized drugs like alcohol and nicotine some people do have difficulties quitting. With it legalized they won't have the threat of prison.

Also most people in jails are mild drug offenders. People who smoke pot. The actual users. Not the drugs dealers. Locking up those people have no effect on criminal actives in their comparatively small numbers. Your tax money is going to feed, cloth, house, and maintain buildings storing people that are jailed for something that really isn't a problem for society.

If you want to keep weed banned than I think you should ban those two earlier mentioned drugs, alcohol and nicotine. Do you guys remember how that ended? A huge rise in illegal actives, an increase in organized crime (with all the great funding they are getting), and an eventual withdraw of the act.

I've personally never looked into other people's reasoning for why it should or shouldn't be legalized but that is what I came up with while typing this. Cheers.
 

Jedimindtrixxx

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ok reasons it should be:
1 no1 ever died from marijuana (impossible to overdose, cuz to overdose you must exceed your body weight, which would cost you practically a million to obtain that amount, youd pass out before you even reach 1/10 of your body weight, and even if you do manage to smoke that much the effects of the first hit/joint would prolly wear off).(fact taken from a DEA study)
2 it helps a lot of people. it helps nausia, indegestion, etc. its probobly the worlds best migraine relief, it helps act as a pain killer for people w/ cancer,AIDS, etc.
3 it can be used to make paper. if your an environmentalist, 1 wai to help stop people from cutting down so many trees is by legalizing marijuana. 1 acre of weed = 1 tree, seems like a lot but consider the fact that marijuana has a short growing season so it grows really fast and matures really fast, and it can be grown in the harshest of weather.
4. it can be used to make clothes so you wouldnt use so much synthetic materials that pollute the environment (related to 3)
5. its 10x better for kids with ADD/ADHD (was even on the news) than retinol.
6. in america, people who are caught with marijuana (not selling) are sentenced to a minimum 1 year, which crowds the cells with people who nearly did nothing but have some pot on them, where they are most likely to get raped/beat up in there.
7. if it were legal it would help a lot of injured people in the military aswell. imagine how much better a guy would feel in the army who got filled in with a shitload of bullets in the middle east and was still alive.
8. it helps people relax and calm down, which helps relieve stress, and we all know how much people suffer from work stress. also relaxing and calming down would stop a lot of fights/etc.

the only possible drawback is that it leaves a shitload of tarr in your lungs when smoked, but there are wais around that such as eating it or w/e, which then causes no drawbacks practically except for the one if your caught with it your fined (thank god i live in canada and its just a minor fine >.> (P.S varine another reason canada is better!)) which started this whole conversation.
 

Varine

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it helps a lot of people. it helps nausia, indegestion, etc. its probobly the worlds best migraine relief, it helps act as a pain killer for people w/ cancer,AIDS, etc.

Medicinal Marijuana can be prescribed.

it can be used to make paper. if your an environmentalist, 1 wai to help stop people from cutting down so many trees is by legalizing marijuana. 1 acre of weed = 1 tree, seems like a lot but consider the fact that marijuana has a short growing season so it grows really fast and matures really fast, and it can be grown in the harshest of weather.

Don't worry about the trees.

its 10x better for kids with ADD/ADHD (was even on the news) than retinol.

No. Giving little kids things to smoke isn't good, bad idea.

in america, people who are caught with marijuana (not selling) are sentenced to a minimum 1 year, which crowds the cells with people who nearly did nothing but have some pot on them, where they are most likely to get raped/beat up in there.

No they aren't.

if it were legal it would help a lot of injured people in the military aswell. imagine how much better a guy would feel in the army who got filled in with a shitload of bullets in the middle east and was still alive.

It doesn't help, trust me.

it helps people relax and calm down, which helps relieve stress, and we all know how much people suffer from work stress. also relaxing and calming down would stop a lot of fights/etc.

It can.

the only possible drawback is that it leaves a shitload of tarr in your lungs when smoked, but there are wais around that such as eating it or w/e, which then causes no drawbacks practically except for the one if your caught with it your fined (thank god i live in canada and its just a minor fine >.> (P.S varine another reason canada is better!)) which started this whole conversation.

Canada still isn't better; I have a list somewhere. It reduces your reaction time, which can cause really bad things to happen. Actually, it can damage your short term memory, screw up your sense of time, and reduces your reaction speed which can obviously be an issue. There's also the psychological dependence issue.
The effects of marijuana can interfere with learning by impairing thinking, reading comprehension, and verbal and mathematical skills. Research shows that students don't remember what they have learned when they are high.
Plus since it gets your heart pumping faster, it can cause issues with people who have heart murmurs or regurgitation.
People also get burnout if they smoke too much.
 

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about the burnout, thats as you mentioned,if you do a lot. its called being responsible. its the exact same as a hangover except you dont get a massive headache, only sleepy. alcohol gives you a after effect but its legal. infact beer is worse then weed because a bunch of people die from it. alcohol also causes memory loss. think about the last time you were wasted. how much do you remember? either illigalize alcohol aswell or legalize marijuana cuz having alcohol legal and weed not is the dumbest logic ever.

about the kids smoking, read the part about ingesting it. plus the butter lasts all day so giving the kids a really small portion to eat would last them all day.
 

Knight7770

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Don't worry about the trees.
Yes, don't worry about something that we use every single day of our lives. We don't need it. :thdown:
 

Battlemapsta

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either illigalize alcohol aswell or legalize marijuana cuz having alcohol legal and weed not is the dumbest logic ever

Alcohol was banned before and that went no where. In fact, it was all chaos and sparked a lot of gangs. That would be a disaster.
 

Jedimindtrixxx

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then legalize marijuana, its simple
 

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^^^Ive got the same # of posts a you :D

Don't expect it to become legal. But dude, really, its really not hard to find. You might wanna look over which canidate you think would help the economy the best, maybe helping out your wallet, maybe letting you buy more weed xD.
 

Jedimindtrixxx

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lmao i never said its hard to find, infact its actually really easy. + i live in canada so even if im caught all i do is get a minor fine. infact the presidential elections dont matter to me since it wont affect me, but i just want to state that marijuana has a shitload of positives and a few amount of negatives. especially compared to alcohol which is legal.

EDIT: not anymore :p
well i got somewhere like 18.9 PPD. but i got skool now so its gunna drastically decrease so ur prolly onna get more then me
 

Varine

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its called being responsible.

Yes, because that's something that most people who want marijuana are.

read the part about ingesting it

They'd have a huge chance of becoming psychologically addicted; and besides, even if it would help them with attention they aren't going to remember much of what they're learning, and again it has adverse affects involving their motor skills.

alcohol also causes memory loss. think about the last time you were wasted.

Pretty well. Bad things happened shortly afterward. Then I got yelled at. Besides, most people when drunk are smart enough not to drive or operate anything that would cause excessive physical harm when something bad happens, and it's pretty obvious to tell when they are wasted. Everyone drives when they're high because they don't feel like they can't, then they become major hazards because their reaction speed is so impaired.

Yes, don't worry about something that we use every single day of our lives. We don't need it.

When you cut a tree down, it regrows unless it's dead in which case it's useless anyway. When the tree is growing it will use up more carbon dioxide than when it slows or stops. The trees will be fine; besides they can defend themselves if they need to. Go watch The Happening.

Anyway, no one is going to legalize it, nor would they probably want to even if it was in their power. Go to Jamaica.
 

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why jamaica when you could go to amsterdam? but thats not the point, the point is none of us want to leave canada/america >.>

and rarely would a person get psychologically addicted, rarely, and they cant get physically addicted to it either.\
and a lot of people want to legalize it actually.

oh and you said something about prescription before? havent you seen the news? every day they are going into hospitals/pharmacys and taking all their medical marijuana. soon there will be no "medical marijuana"


P.S the happening was a fucked up movie man! i liked it. corny storyline but i liked it. + the tree will take years and years to regrow, where as marijuana would take a very short time
 

Varine

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rarely would a person get psychologically addicted

Rarely would children with totally underdeveloped systems be using it. That would change pretty fast.
 

Jedimindtrixxx

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i never said to give it to kids who are like 5 >.>

EDIT: well im out for the night il continue the convo w/ u tomorrow after school :)
gnight
 

Varine

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i never said to give it to kids who are like 5 >.>

The small kids are the ones who have the biggest issue with ADD and ADHD and the ones who need medication for it.
 

nemesispoi

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dang
ive been gone for 1 day and theres already 3 pages...

im actually glad i started this thread cause i learned stuff. Thanks TeeAichSee
 

FireCat

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some gave a good reasons, but nicotine are not same like marijuana, even if is harder to quit then marijuana (maybe),like someone said. but what about that, it is not only one report about what marijuana can do to you.
It reduces your reaction time, which can cause really bad things to happen. Actually, it can damage your short term memory, screw up your sense of time, and reduces your reaction speed which can obviously be an issue. There's also the psychological dependence issue.
The effects of marijuana can interfere with learning by impairing thinking, reading comprehension, and verbal and mathematical skills. Research shows that students don't remember what they have learned when they are high.
Plus since it gets your heart pumping faster, it can cause issues with people who have heart murmurs or regurgitation.
People also get burnout if they smoke too much.
 
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