Guide Custom Hero Line Wars - |Mod's Pick|

[baka-ranger]

My items were Dragon Lance, the two armors which decrease ranged damage, Immortal's Helm, the bow which gives you 5% chance to instantly kill, and, uh, one more thing I can't remember.

Taking ranged damage reduction doesn't stack as far as i know...

Killmain takes up a slot for important recipe items though... Or is there a recipe item with lifesteal?

Yea i think there is.
Yea so i wouldn't waste vamp as an ability, unless they take out killmain, which would be challenging

The life stealing recipe is "Executioners Blade".

In solo/single player mode you can still send chance stealers wich is kinda wierd... <_>

Well, since the way it is now is virtually "playing yourself", if sending stealers is part of your stratergy, say massing blood fiends then a stealer so they can't run (for example), then you know what it's like to be on the receiving end.

2: it gets stronger than killmaim and executioner's lifesteal (I THINK) and it stacks with both since aura + orb stacks

as baka said, balancing summons is difficult. you cant really give them damage equivalent to that of a nuke ability, that'd just be crazy and giving them average damage just makes them a moderate meat shield. imo, just use tornados if you need a summon, since they cant be killed prematurely and have powerful slow effect .

Vamp aura actually ends up giving double the life steal effect of killmaim. If I remember correctly, Vamp at level 10 gives 100%, where killmaim and 'Ex' Blade give 50%. There is one other item that gives even greater life steal though...

About the summons, why not give them upgrades that matches the level of the hero.

Explain?

 

[Prometheus]

There is one other item that gives even greater life steal though...

Is that the combination....or do you have secrets recipes that do such?

 

[baka-ranger]

No... There are no secrets or cheats in CHLW, unless you're playing a hacked version, of which there are many.

And as far as i know life steals don't stack.

Take a look around and you will find it. Personally this item is the only item I use for life steal even if I don't have any orb effects.

 

[Daskunk]

Well, since the way it is now is virtually "playing yourself", if sending stealers is part of your stratergy, say massing blood fiends then a stealer so they can't run (for example), then you know what it's like to be on the receiving end.

Still, Kinda silly taking lives and giving them to the enemy.. o.0?

 

[Tubba]

Just a question, did whoever thought up the name "Kanbei's War Sabre from the Yellow Comet" get it from the Advance Wars series? There happens to be a guy called Kanbei from the Yellow Comet army in there... >_>

 

[baka-ranger]

Lol, several recipe "item histories" are taken from games that i've grown up with and enjoyed. I figure they're sort of an easter egg about me.
But I suppose they could be taken as "unoriginality".

 

[Tubba]

Nah, I do that all the time too. Just wondering. *Points at Majin GAR with the ability Rocket Punch in my TD*


Hm... Tried a melee agility hero with this build:

Cleave
Vamp Aura
Faeri Fire
Debilitation Aura
Drunken Brawler

Went so-so. Negative armor seems to cap fairly early, at -71%, which happens at a few 100. So, unless you're fighting Tree of Death, it gets obsolete really quickly. Maybe something to point out in the tooltips?

Had these items:
Dragon Lance (Duh)
Executioner's Blade
Godly Plate of the Whale
FInal Guard (Just for that 15% block)
...And two others I can't remember.


You need to fix the shrines, as for now, only Monster Lure works. All the others seem to have 0 range. Unless that was intentional...?

 

[JoeKR]

I don't think anyone needs 100% vampire aura.

With...
Cleave
Delibiration (minus armour)
Critical
slow Aura

You should be able to get enough lifesteal with one hit from 99% of monsters.
Only exception would be tree, which when versing two or three, if they manage to hit past your evade all at once, then your dead if you don't have enough life. Vampire aura doesn't work here.

 

[Tubba]

I usually have close to 100% damage reduction and a few thousand STR, so I think I can take a few hits from them, actually. Spirits of Vengeance are far more dangerous in masses.

 

[JoeKR]

Yea that and those flying ship things which have ridiculous range and speed, they are also deadly in masses

 

[baka-ranger]

You need to fix the shrines, as for now, only Monster Lure works. All the others seem to have 0 range. Unless that was intentional...?

What do you mean have 0 range?

In my opinion, Dragon Lance is over-rated and so is life steal from killmaim/recipes.

 

[Tubba]

In the solo version, they say "Target is out of range" even if you target right next to the shrine.

 

[baka-ranger]

Hmm.. It seems like its some problem with widgetiser... But I can't be sure.. I'll make another version without widgetiser and attach it to the front again.

EDIT::
Non-widgetized version attached to the front.

 

[Prometheus]

Oh yea!
Avatar for Bash protection from the flying ships.

 

[Tubba]

Ugh, Bash. The lack of Stasis Trap is really what screwed me up on solo >_>

 

[FhelZone]

Avatar negates bash?

 

[JoeKR]

No i don't think so.
As i recall in one of blizzards updates, they removed BASH as a spell, mainly because that passives such as critical strike still do damage against spell immunes.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

 

[Wolfsage]

Take a look around and you will find it. Personally this item is the only item I use for life steal even if I don't have any orb effects.

Is it really an item? Or are you just using "item" loosely, like people will use "crap"?
In v. 1.41? Hmmm, it would have to be a recipie then.... But what gives lifesteal? Darn you! Now I'll have to play again.. XD I've been playing D2:LOD.

 

[seph ir oth]

No i don't think so.
As i recall in one of blizzards updates, they removed BASH as a spell, mainly because that passives such as critical strike still do damage against spell immunes.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

You're correct.

Not sure if you get many of these posts, but you've put together a WELL MADE MAP

 

[baka-ranger]

Avatar negates bash?

No i don't think so.
As i recall in one of blizzards updates, they removed BASH as a spell, mainly because that passives such as critical strike still do damage against spell immunes.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

In this avatar does block bash

Is it really an item? Or are you just using "item" loosely, like people will use "crap"?
In v. 1.41? Hmmm, it would have to be a recipie then.... But what gives lifesteal? Darn you! Now I'll have to play again.. XD I've been playing D2:LOD.

Yup its an item, and I don't get your analogy. xD It's been in there for awhile, I can't remember when i put it in.. But if you take a careful look you will find it. Not many people use it, only the few regulars that I play with.

You're correct.

Not sure if you get many of these posts, but you've put together a WELL MADE MAP

Thanks