*** Stairway to Heaven ***

[AceHart]

> Could make players angry when they learn the wrong one.

Wrong one? What wrong one?

That could be changed of course, but why would I want to?
Well, I guess I'll just wait for some comments once someone's tested it.

 

[SFilip]

amazing map...who would think a game so simple can be so addictive
anyway there is one bug i found. when someone leaves his units change ownership to neutral victim. yet when someone tries to attack them (someone from their team at least) the game treats that just like attacking an ally - you get that annoying message and nothing happens. to make things worse as long as you stand close to those units, you keep receiving those message since it seems that they aggro although you can't attack them.
also maybe you could make something like rebalance in aom...balancing teams when someone leaves by changing alliances. turns 2v4 to 3v3 during the game for example.

 

[fratleyslaye]

Don't even know if Ace is working on this anymore, but balancing issues would be funny, I can picture this: two teams of 4 people, 2 leave on team 1, so one on team 2 swaps to team 1 and hes in middle of team 2 holding the top insta dead! =]

 

[AceHart]

> his units change ownership to neutral victim

That's changed on the version I have here.
They'll be under computer control and actively (sort of) move around.

 

[AceHart]

Rc2

New version, new luck.

New Hero.
A random option is, of course, available, for the times when two Heroes is just too many to choose from.

No, there is no "all pick", "all random"... and won't be added either.

Your score is the amount of Gold you currently have.
This decision is final.

Gold upped a bit.
Estimated average game time with a full house: 25 minutes.

-auto


Q: There seems to be a feature with the portraits when I choose a Hero.
A: Yep, cool, isn't it?

Q: The Orc is way too strong.
A: Seems like you found your Hero.

Q: The Marine is greatly imba!
A: Seems like you found your Hero.

Q: A random option? With two Heroes only?
A: Yes, there is one.

Q: I prefered the "score = overall total".
A: Hm... yes. But, no. Score = Current.

Q: Hey, I got an item that's not in the shop, but don't remember how I got it. Maybe I'm just seeing things.
A: There is one, indeed.

Q: Any other "secrets"?
A: Who knows...

Q: Do you regrow trees?
A: Always. You managed to kill one?

Q: It's not working!
A: "It doesn't work" is not a very good problem description.

Q: What do I need to make a new map? Do I have to download a firewall or something?
A: ...


Yours,
AceHart

P.s.: The map, as usual, in post #1.

P.p.s.: Download count on previous version: 29

 

[emjlr3]

aha, neato, ill have to check this one out again

 

[2-P]

Nice (F)AQ. xD

Playing FFA against the AI was a very bad idea. 2-P = last <.<
Have to play it online sometime, *looks at the download counter* shouldn't be a problem to find a hosted game.

 

[AceHart]

> 2-P = last

Excellent

Means the comp isn't that bad really.


If it helps, I tend to come in last even with a team on my side...

 

[emjlr3]

> 2-P = last

Excellent

Means the comp isn't that bad really.


If it helps, I tend to come in last even with a team on my side...

i dont doubt it

 

[The Helper]

Why isn't this in the Maps Database?

 

[R@d14nc3]

hey, nice map, are you still working on it?
I tried to play it, but my base would get owned by my friends in about, 2 mins

 

[Chocobo]

Nice (F)AQ. xD

Playing FFA against the AI was a very bad idea. 2-P = last <.<
Have to play it online sometime, *looks at the download counter* shouldn't be a problem to find a hosted game.

> 2-P = last

Excellent

Means the comp isn't that bad really.


If it helps, I tend to come in last even with a team on my side...

Yes, AI is imba with items that comes from out of nowhere when they spawn (Especially LOL +3 dmg).

And GetLocationZ owned Rects.

 

[AceHart]

> my base would get owned

Your base? What base?


> AI is imba with items

Not really.
Poor comp needs a chance too to win.
And, they pay the items just the same. They are just quicker to the shops...

But, yes, items do make a difference, if used correctly.
Which is why the "power" items expire.
If you try to stay at the top, and an itemized team runs up to you, you're toast.
Works as designed.


> And GetLocationZ owned Rects

Definitely.
Very short code. Very fast. No testing required.
Automatically adjusts to any changes in the map, like extra or less stairs.

 

[Chocobo]

Not really.
Poor comp needs a chance too to win.
And, they pay the items just the same. They are just quicker to the shops...

But, yes, items do make a difference, if used correctly.
Which is why the "power" items expire.
If you try to stay at the top, and an itemized team runs up to you, you're toast.
Works as designed.

I don't like to see a hero's AI coming back with a +3 damage, a time I was in 6v6 and we were controlling all sides (left, right, up, down), then weirdly all computers came with each +3 dmg and killed anything in their path. And they can shop insane. ^^ funny Artificial Intelligence that uses what it has to kill anything.

 

[AceHart]

That's either back luck on your part, or perfect organization on theirs.
I tend to the second

Clearly, the map works.

You can't just own the top within five minutes and just wait for the end.
You have to work for it!

This also works the other way around:
If you got owned at the top, there's always a way to get it back.




In general though, artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity (or some other combination )

 

[R@d14nc3]

So, do you still work on it or not?

I refer to base as to all my units

I would say (if you work on it) that you could make an AI version...

 

[Chocobo]

AI is already inside the map (though triggers).

Stairway to Heaven. ^^ very nice song.

There's a lady who's sure
All that glitters is gold
And she's buying a stairway to heaven.
When she gets there she knows
If the stores are all closed
With a word she can get what she came for.
Ooh, ooh, and she's buying a stairway to heaven.

There's a sign on the wall
But she wants to be sure
'Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings.
In a tree by the brook
There's a songbird who sings,
Sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven.
Ooh, it makes me wonder,
Ooh, it makes me wonder.

There's a feeling I get
When I look to the west,
And my spirit is crying for leaving.
In my thoughts I have seen
Rings of smoke through the trees,
And the voices of those who stand looking.
Ooh, it makes me wonder,
Ooh, it really makes me wonder.

And it's whispered that soon
If we all call the tune
Then the piper will lead us to reason.
And a new day will dawn
For those who stand long
And the forests will echo with laughter.

If there's a bustle in your hedgerow
Don't be alarmed now,
It's just a spring clean for the May queen.
Yes, there are two paths you can go by
But in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on.
And it makes me wonder.

Your head is humming and it won't go
In case you don't know,
The piper's calling you to join him,
Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow,
And did you know
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind.

And as we wind on down the road
Our shadows taller than our soul.
There walks a lady we all know
Who shines white light and wants to show
How ev'rything still turns to gold.
And if you listen very hard
The tune will come to you at last.
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll.

And she's buying a stairway to heaven.

I'm late to write it. I know.

 

[R@d14nc3]

Are you about to release any beta version of it, or update, Ace?
I would like to suggest things

 

[AceHart]

Absolutely nothing around here can possibly surprise me anymore.
Let's hear it.

 

[R@d14nc3]

Idea, then:

Shamans: (quest like thingies)
Somewhere in the map there are some Shamans that have incredible powers.
When you talk to one he/she is transported to a place where all shamans gather.
If you go to that place, your unit(s) stats are enchanced, and the more shamans you've gathered, the better they'll become. You have the enchancements unitl you die or a set timer expires.
Shamans can also fuse your units to pernament stronger ones by giving gold to them.

In an EDIT to that, it means that the player that finds the most Shamans will also have stronger units

What do you think?