Report Will your self-driving car be programmed to kill you if it means saving more strangers?

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Imagine you are in charge of the switch on a trolley track. The express is due any minute; but as you glance down the line you see a school bus, filled with children, stalled at the level crossing. No problem; that's why you have this switch. But on the alternate track there's more trouble: Your child, who has come to work with you, has fallen down on the rails and can't get up. That switch can save your child or a bus-full of others, but not both. What do you do?

This ethical puzzler is commonly known as the Trolley Problem. It's a standard topic in philosophy and ethics classes, because your answer says a lot about how you view the world. But in a very 21st-century take, several writers have adapted the scenario to a modern obsession: autonomous vehicles. Google's self-driving cars have already driven 1.7 million miles on American roads, and have never been the cause of an accident during that time, the company says. Volvo says it will have a self-driving model on Swedish highways by 2017. Elon Musk says the technology is so close that he can have current-model Teslas ready to take the wheel on "major roads" by this summer.

The technology may have arrived, but are we ready?

Google's cars can already handle real-world hazards, such as cars' suddenly swerving in front of them. But in some situations, a crash is unavoidable. (In fact, Google's cars have been in dozens of minor accidents, all of which the company blames on human drivers.) How will a Google car, or an ultra-safe Volvo, be programmed to handle a no-win situation -- a blown tire, perhaps -- where it must choose between swerving into oncoming traffic or steering directly into a retaining wall? The computers will certainly be fast enough to make a reasoned judgment within milliseconds. They would have time to scan the cars ahead and identify the one most likely to survive a collision, for example, or the one with the most other humans inside. But should they be programmed to make the decision that is best for their owners? Or the choice that does the least harm -- even if that means choosing to slam into a retaining wall to avoid hitting an oncoming school bus? Who will make that call, and how will they decide?


This is an interesting article to read.
 
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thewrongvine

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Is like that iRobot scene. In a car crash, robot chooses to save the man who has a higher probability of surviving over the little girl. And Will Smith gets angry.
 

tom_mai78101

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Is like that iRobot scene. In a car crash, robot chooses to save the man who has a higher probability of surviving over the little girl. And Will Smith gets angry.
Yes, that scene is definitely based on that ethical puzzle.
 

Hatebreeder

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I don't mind sacrificing my life if I'd save other lives.
Though, I'd hate it if I'd save fat people. Preferably, I'd like to save hot girls and intelligent men. Yes, I think my life would weigh equally to a bus full of hot cheerleaders and smart mofos, except Accname, he pulls the equations to null. He's tried to troll me way too often. I think of him as a meme-troll-entity rather than a human, thus not worth my life to give away.
 

FireCat

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Sounds so nuts !
A self driving car should not murder someone!
 

Accname

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I don't mind sacrificing my life if I'd save other lives.
Though, I'd hate it if I'd save fat people. Preferably, I'd like to save hot girls and intelligent men. Yes, I think my life would weigh equally to a bus full of hot cheerleaders and smart mofos, except Accname, he pulls the equations to null. He's tried to troll me way too often. I think of him as a meme-troll-entity rather than a human, thus not worth my life to give away.
I bet you would also not want your car to save the life of those filthy geldsack jews.
 

Hatebreeder

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I bet you would also not want your car to save the life of those filthy geldsack jews.

What would you bet on? Also, stop fucking around and use proper German if you're going to use it. It's hard on the eyes the way you try to use it. And whats with your grammar? If you can't even muster up the energy to use proper grammar in English, you shouldn't even try to use German.
 

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German grammer nazis, the closest you can get.
 

The Helper

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This would have made a great debate topic for back in the day...
 
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