I give less than a fuck as to how your high school gym teacher taught you to debate in regards to name calling. Unfortunately, in this situation, I referred to certain divisions of society as evangelicals and republicans. The last time I checked, this isn't name calling. This is identifying a group, not only as society does, but even as they describe themselves!
The republican base, that has adopted ignorance (i.e. Sarah Palin) and right ideology as their paradigm, who believes, quite literally in a "Space God", and who supposedly has all the answers to the afterlife and how to live your life until then, and who won't even consider, for a second, all evidence to the contrary, is in-fact close minded. Unfortunately it has become commonplace for such individuals to legislate their opinion. I on the other hand, who am not a christian, is still open to the possible existence of an intelligence greater than myself, although it is highly unlikely.
Hell let's make it illegal to leave your house past 7:15 Am because you may be sleepy. Lets make illegal any and all prescription drugs. Lets ban really tight underwear because you may need to adjust your johnson while driving.
>you can't get ppl drunk when you drink yourself
No, you're right. But that's no reason not to legalize marijuana...
Since when does calling a group of people sheltered and uninformed not qualify as name calling?
I was replying to a very nonconstructive and offensive post. I was trying to act in a civil manner, by showing you that what you said is simply not true. You never said in your original post that you only wanted to legalize marijuana in your home, so don't you dare be calling anyone a "FUCKING DUMBASS."
So what you're saying is that you haven't yet chosen what you believe, but that you are willing to choose something to believe. However, you're also calling everyone who has already chosen something to believe is close-minded.
Your examples are fail. Marijuana is illegal right now because 1. They can't enforce the law to keep everybody only smoking in their home, and 2. The second-hand smoke gets other people high, which causes negative effects on their brain, even if they may not want to get high. Prescription drugs are prescribed. That means your doctor told you to take them, so you can get better. Many of them which make you sleepy also say you're not allowed to operate heavy machinery (including a car). Your other 2 'examples' are completely irrelevant.
Evangelical biblebangers and their supporters ie. The Republican Party, like Sarah Palin IS sheltered and uninformed. Unfortunately it was this party ,that was supported, and who's base continued to push legislation that keeps marijuana illegal.
"FUCKING DUMBASS" is refering to the fact that if you are getting high from second hand smoke and don't understand how to prevent it, any human with a brain stem would realize that they probably need to leave the room, then YES you are a DUMBASS. Don't ever sit on my couch beside me and not expect to get high.
Yep.... Anyone who has chosen to believe in some sorta space god and disregard all scientific evidence to the contrary in my mind is close minded.
At least my belief isn't so hardened that it doesn't allow for other possibilities to be true. ie The stubborness of the biblebangers. And how dare they suggest to know more about the afterlife than I do when in all reality we are all human with the same capacity.
To ban something at home based on what might happen if the user chooses to act unintelligibly is unconstitutional. In order to preserve freedom, a certain degree of tolerance is necessary in any society.
I am expanding on this principle which apparently you cease to understand.
Even after I discuss getting high on my fucking couch, you still continue this meaningless argument that somehow second hand marijuana will get you high , and I should feel sorry for this because I am smoking in my own home and you are too much of a dumbass to leave? Oh Pity.
Evangelical biblebangers and their supporters ie. The Republican Party, like Sarah Palin IS sheltered and uninformed. Unfortunately it was this party ,that was supported, and who's base continued to push legislation that keeps marijuana illegal.
"FUCKING DUMBASS" is refering to the fact that if you are getting high from second hand smoke and don't understand how to prevent it, any human with a brain stem would realize that they probably need to leave the room, then YES you are a DUMBASS. Don't ever sit on my couch beside me and not expect to get high.
Yep.... Anyone who has chosen to believe in some sorta space god and disregard all scientific evidence to the contrary in my mind is close minded.
At least my belief isn't so hardened that it doesn't allow for other possibilities to be true. ie The stubborness of the biblebangers. And how dare they suggest to know more about the afterlife than I do when in all reality we are all human with the same capacity.
To ban something at home based on what might happen if the user chooses to act unintelligibly is unconstitutional. In order to preserve freedom, a certain degree of tolerance is necessary in any society.
I am expanding on this principle which apparently you cease to understand.
Actually, you only show your own ignorance by saying all members and supporters of the Republican Party AND Evangelicals ARE (not is) sheltered and uninformed. First of all, there are a majority of Democratic Evengelicals, some of which are close friends of mine. Secondly, many Catholic and Evengalical people do illegal drugs or have issues with said drugs. Just because they believe in a religion doesn't mean that they are perfect or that they don't know the truth. You blindly stereotype all religious people as morons, when you have no proof or reasons to back up your claim.
It amuses me to see how so many Democrats claim they're open minded. If they were open minded, they would freely research and understand the position that the opposing group is coming from rather than ignorantly attacking the other group with no supporting evidence and with the only goal of enraging the other party.
You just called emjlr3 a "fucking dumbass"... nice going.
Anyways, why should non-smokers have to go out of their way for smokers? Smokers should realize that people they live with do not like smoking and therefore should not smoke in the vicinity of non-smokers. Especially if a smoker is living with a non-smoker. The smell lingers throughout the room, is very hard to get rid of (different from covering up) and effects both you and ALL people living with you.
Yet another ignorant statement. Only Scientologists believe in a "space god" because their god can be quantified (i.e. aliens). God does not necessarily belong to our perception of the universe. If you actually want to stop being ignorant about other people's beliefs, please READ the Catholic Catechism and do something to educate yourself. Link is online here
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM
Why don't you tolerate the fact that I and many other people have issues with people who smoke and that it effects us negatively. The fact that it's a health risk means that smokers should be more accommodating instead of non-smokers.
So it was perfectly fine to allow child abuse in homes? Pedophiles are allowed to touch other children because it is their home or their child? Your argument holds no grown when compared to other things that effect other people as well as themselves.
If I lived with you in your home as well than I should have a fair say in what happens. If you do something that is against what I think is healthy than yes you should conform to my beliefs as it is keeping myself healthy and still allowing you to smoke.
All religious people in my opinion are morons.
Come on, man. You have good points, but when you say something like that it's just difficult to take you seriously.
As a final note, for anyone wishing to further the discussion, perhaps a good way to do it would be to compare how it is now, as illegal, and how you think it would be, as legal.