Sci/Tech Russian billionaire reveals real-life 'avatar' plan; will upload his brain to a hologram.

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A Russian billionaire has revealed controversial plans to upload his own brain and become immortal by 2045. 32 year-old Dmitry Itskov believes technology will allow him to live forever in a hologram body. His '2045 initiative' is described as the next step in evolution, and over 20,000 people have signed up on Facebook to follow its progress, with global conferences planned to explore the technology needed.

'We are in the process of creating focus groups of experts,' said Itskov. 'Along with these teams, we will prepare goal statements and research programs schedules.'

The foundation has already planned out its timeline for getting to a fully holographic human, and claims it will be ready to upload a mind into a computer by 2015, a timeline even Itskov says is 'optimistic'.

'The four tracks and their suggested deadlines are optimistic but feasible,' he said of the foundation's site. This is our program for the next 35 years, and we will do our best to complete it. '

The ultimate aim is for a hologram body.

'The fourth development track seems the most futuristic one,' said Itskov.

 
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FireCat

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OMFG! How can he "live forever" Just uploading his brain?
 

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Because he won't have to rely on his body anymore, his mind(i.e. the transferred data of his mind) won't corrode with time like a normal human body does
 

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it's his consciousness he will keep. you should read some biological psychology.
You should! You can't upload your brain to a hologram or whatever, and think you would live forever! It doesn't matter, if your brain is uploaded to a computer or copied and put into an avatar. Its NOT you. You won't be able to see through its eyes, taste what it eats etc....

Such a fucking scam.
 

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You should! You can't upload your brain to a hologram or whatever, and think you would live forever! It doesn't matter, if your brain is uploaded to a computer or copied and put into an avatar. Its NOT you. You won't be able to see through its eyes, taste what it eats etc....

Such a fucking scam.
the body is only a vessel. your brain is you.
 

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Such a fucking scam.
How is it a scam when he's doing it to himself? That's fuckin' cool, but 2015? If we're that far along already, I can only imagine what this century has in store for us.
 

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No! In fact, you need your whole body to being you. If you got your head chopped off!
You would be death? No?
You ever heard of blind people? deaf people? or otherwise disabled?
They are still themselfs, even without eyes, ears or whatnot.
 

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it's his consciousness he will keep. you should read some biological psychology.
Strangly, I think FireCat isn't so wrong on this one.
By uploading your brain into a hologram, it sounds more like recreating your personality based on information you have acquired. However, how is one supposed to learn? One can't possibly expect a calculated reponse or a favoured reaction from a person. I honestly can't imagine something man-made solve all those paradoxes that essentially makes a human a human.
If this doesn't make sence to you, I'd be happy to outline my chain of thoughts with an example.
 

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One learns by using our AI learning methods used in one of these videos. Perhaps the logic behind all of it would be vastly improved in year 2045.
It's not about the process of learning, it's about learning like you'd do. Learning something is not just understanding a subject, but also linking it to other things you already know to create an idea. Kinda difficult to explain what I'm trying to say :D
 

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Strangly, I think FireCat isn't so wrong on this one.
By uploading your brain into a hologram, it sounds more like recreating your personality based on information you have acquired. However, how is one supposed to learn? One can't possibly expect a calculated reponse or a favoured reaction from a person. I honestly can't imagine something man-made solve all those paradoxes that essentially makes a human a human.
If this doesn't make sence to you, I'd be happy to outline my chain of thoughts with an example.
everything of a human can pretty much be made from scratch, assuming we have the technology for it. how this case will practically play out is anybody's guess, but saying that you'll lose an essential part of your consciousness, soul, or whatnot for any procedure such as this, no matter the circumstance, is without grounds.
 

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Cheshire, why are you so against this?

Also, as far as the brain-body thing goes, in consideration of how little anyone knows about how the process actually works, it's not possible to say whether it would or wouldn't work. From a strictly scientific standpoint, your brain is primarily what defines you. All physical interactions are controlled by the brain in a measurable capacity, and general though appears to be as well. There's no reason that things like eyes can not be synthesized and be capable of curing, say, blindness, meaning that if you have a brain that is sustained somehow through a simulation of the energy transference that the body makes to it, and obvious things like blood flow would have to also somehow be artificial. There really isn't any reason that this wouldn't be possible, and as to what the brain would be doing insofar as thinking or otherwise being conscious is completely unknown and will remain so until someone tries to do it.
 

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Cheshire, why are you so against this?

Also, as far as the brain-body thing goes, in consideration of how little anyone knows about how the process actually works, it's not possible to say whether it would or wouldn't work. From a strictly scientific standpoint, your brain is primarily what defines you. All physical interactions are controlled by the brain in a measurable capacity, and general though appears to be as well. There's no reason that things like eyes can not be synthesized and be capable of curing, say, blindness, meaning that if you have a brain that is sustained somehow through a simulation of the energy transference that the body makes to it, and obvious things like blood flow would have to also somehow be artificial. There really isn't any reason that this wouldn't be possible, and as to what the brain would be doing insofar as thinking or otherwise being conscious is completely unknown and will remain so until someone tries to do it.
I agree with you
 

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How is it a scam when he's doing it to himself? That's fuckin' cool, but 2015? If we're that far along already, I can only imagine what this century has in store for us.
Teleportation, maybe? Destroying the object to be teleported before recreating it elsewhere seems to be a pretty common idea, and not that far removed from this one either.
 

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Strangly, I think FireCat isn't so wrong on this one.
By uploading your brain into a hologram, it sounds more like recreating your personality based on information you have acquired. However, how is one supposed to learn? One can't possibly expect a calculated reponse or a favoured reaction from a person. I honestly can't imagine something man-made solve all those paradoxes that essentially makes a human a human.
If this doesn't make sence to you, I'd be happy to outline my chain of thoughts with an example.
he will basically have a new, seperate self which supposedly would always be "him" at that exact moment, I find it hard to believe that electronic conciousness could grow
 
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