Donar's Helm's Deep

[SgtDonar]

Hey guys,
What would you like to see added to a Helm's Deep map? What would you change about them? What would you do to make it better? Post here with your ideas, comments, critisims, and suggestions. And I will reply best I can, and talk to you about your ideas... And who knows? I might (most likely) add your ideas to the map!


Hero List:
Aragorn- Blue
Haldir- Purple
Gimli- Orange
Theoden, Gamling- Green
Legolas- Dark Green

DOWNLOAD v1.9c!
Here (W.E.T.)/
http://www.epicwar.com/maps/15114/] Or Here(Epic War)

VERSION 1.9c
-White Hand's Fist =REMOVED=
-Troll HP 3k->4k
-Deeping Tower healing aura area 500->1000
-Merc camp put into great hall
-Rider of Rohan unit scaling fixed
=Orc War Tent=
-Organized
=Orc Archer=
-Auto Casted Poison arrows (10 of them)
=Heavy Archer=
-Perfect Dodge
-Add more fire!
=Knight=
-Battle Action (Spirit Link)
-Rage (berzerk)
=Combat Caster=
-Control Magic (good VS Wisps)
-Slow
-Removed Light Arrow to make way for Control Magic

NEW=Field Troll=
-Cleave
-Bash
-Resistant Skin
-Critical Strike
-Hurl Bolder
-Ensnare
-HP=3000
-Defence: Small:1
-10 wood, 4food

NEW=Grand Mage=
-Condurence Aura
-Reveal
-Magic Defence
-InnerFire
-Abolish Magic
-Fearie Fire
-75 Gold hire cost
-preplaced
NEW=Arrow Racks=
-Human alliance archers will have props around them that they can regen their special arrows out of. (Mana regen aura
-Low HP, they are basically just for the begining.
-preplaced

VERSION 1.9b
-Fog Of war put back in
-Hero line of sights changed(900->)1800
-Changed "open side right/left" to "-open left/right", in order to save typing time.
-Human Victory end Cene will be fixed from the change in that made a bug in the 1.8-1.9 transition.
-Another Ranged orc unit with a cool custom ability.
-All archers (human and orc) will gain light arrow (flare)
-Light Ladder's lumber cost up 5 to 10
-Fixed Uruk-Hai weapon hands(what hands they are held in)
-nerfed orc heros (damage sides per die 100->60)
-All Uruk units except Heros, Trolls and Battering Rams can no longer attack Deeping Towers (was creating traffic)

-Rohan Militia
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-Wild Strikes(cleave)

-Uruk Crossbowmen
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-Light Arrow
-Reduced HP 260->250
-Removed Envoloped weapons

-Spearmen
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-Added "Piercing Spears" (chance to do line dmg, passive)
-Retooltiped Hide

-Knights
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-Life leech increased from 16 to 32
-Rohan Hewer(Maul)
-More HP (1700-1800)
-Mithril Armor (Resistant skin)
-Removed Heal, replaced with Improved Defend

-Trolls
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-Higher Damage
-Eyes On Me (Taunt 1000 range)
-Eat Dead (Cannibalize 20/s)
-Rubbery Hide (Hard Skin; 21 reduction)

-Battering Rams
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-Added "Get In!" for Uruk-Hai
-Armor changed from small to fortified

-White Hand's Fist
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-Range Reduced to 10,000
-Damage recalculation. Full DMG, 100r/Medium DMG 200r/Small DMG 400r
-added burning oil

=NEW UNITS=
-Uruk-Hai Combat Caster
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-Magic Sphere(acid bomb)
-Spell Steal
-5gold, 2food
-Small armor aura

DOWNLOAD v1.9b
Here

VERSION 1.9a:
-Fixed Uruk weapons
-Added Haldir 1 Chance item

Download 1.9a:
Here

VERSION 1.9 Includes:
-Hero level 15 √
-Intro music and triggers removed, I love it and it makes it stand out, but it takes too long to DL on b-net. √
-More custom abilities (lots) †adding slowly!
-Aragorn's overpowered item will be removed (altered into 'Grants him chain dispel, and +12 damage bonus.') √
-Legolas's Ring will be nerfed and given a castable ability. (Recall) √
-Auto-cast bloodlust will be fixed for orcs √
-Hopefully an arthus skin... i cant find the path for it. √
-Deeping Tower HP will be lowered √
-Standard orcs will have HP raised by 10 √
-Archers will gain pierce attack type √
-All orcs will be able to defend. √
-Shattering Arrows (ranged cleave, costs 1 mana, archers that will use have 30 mana and no regen) √
-Flaming Arrows (searing arrows, cost: 1, mana: 40) √
-Nature Arrows (black arrows, cost 1, mana 20, wisps) √
-New Orc Seige weapon model! √
-New Axethrower model! √
-Fixed pathing by the walls behind the deeping wall.√
-Gandalf has his own aura model. √
-Aragorn Talents redone. √
-All units have a critical and a dodge. √
-Camera Help added to F9 menu√
-Gimli talents redone.
-Axethrower gained feedback
-Knight auto-heal fixed
-Now players are unable to sell their items to the potion shops for more money (exploit)

VERSION 1.8 includes:
-Custom Intro, like the intro to the first movie
-Custom Human win end, Gandalf
-Custom load screen, and defeat scorescreen
-Custom map-ping
-Uruk-Hai custom model
-Troll custom model
-Battering ram custom model
-Custom elf archers (male)
-custom light human archers(male)
-custom heavy human archers(male)
-custom knights (mountless)
-Legolas is male! (finnaly lol)
-custom grass doodad
-Custom music
-Humans have a starting 200gold for more units and items.
-Hero level 20
-Doodads look great, and are not girly (you'll see what i mean)
-Humans have 'Deeping Towers' towers with Healing aura and command aura
-Ballistas are accually effective, and can one-shot most Uruks
-A few custom abilities. (More will be added soon.)

Download 1.8: Here



Please post with your comments on the v1.8 or v1.9 map, and if you have any ideas, please post them here. Also, rate the map on epicwar.com.

~Cheers,
Sgt.Donar@USEast; Ouren; Wratmann

 

[SnowCrow]

Wow, the filesize must be huge.
Any screenshots?

 

[SgtDonar]

Ill post some shortly

 

[SgtDonar]

Does anyone have the path for an arthus skin?

 

[SgtDonar]

Here are 10 screenshots...
http://gallery.filefront.com/Ouren/79626/

 

[hi_im_bob]

Whoa that was an amazing looking Helms Deep Nice job you have obviously put a lot of work into it. I really liked thos towers/wall things. Only question I have is in one of the pictures the archer is really small, and then there is a swordsman that is like 20x bigger.

The only problem I have with Helms Deep games is that all orcs do is mass units. And all the humans do is stack heros and hide in main hall. Hopefully your version is more balanced ( I wouldnt be suprised if it was seeing the work you put into terrain and such).

 

[uberfoop]

Stop stealing maps.

Taking a common map, spamming doodads, and filling it with imports to the point where people can't dl through hosted games, meh. Doesn't work.

 

[elmstfreddie]

Arthas is just
Textures\Arthas.blp

As for some guy saying people just mass orcs, wasn't that the point of Helms Deep? The orcs had massive amounts of weak people, the humans had a fair amount high quality.

You should make this really difficult for the humans, and also orcs should start off with lots of units.

I'll check out the map later when I have time.

 

[SgtDonar]

Bob,
Thanks for the good words. In the picture with the Elves and the Knight in the background, I made the Knights bigger so that they would be easier to target for the orcs, the Knights are powerful units, and are a big threat.
As for massing orcs and such, thats what Helm's deep was all about, however I will try to add varity and add more things to do in the map.

Uberfoop...
I did use another map as a template a long time ago, and working on this map helped me learn alot about map development and how to do lots of things. I am only submiting this map because its the one ive spent the most time with, and it is by far the most polished thing I have so far.
However, i learned alot about abilities in another map I was working on called "Under a blood red sky", which is not finished yet.
I posted this map becuase I hoped everyone could enjoy the multimedia experiance that has come from months of testing and learning.

Elmstfreddie, thanks, i found the path on another site. (its the time that counts.)
This version of Helm's Deep is hard for the humans, however Aragorn is overpowerd and neesds to be nerfed. I am going to use all of the custom ranged attacks that I made for my other map for the humans and elves.
-Shattering Arrows (ranged cleave, costs 1 mana, archers that will use have 30 mana and no regen)
-Flaming Arrows (searing arrows, cost: 1, mana: 40)
-Nature Arrows (black arrows, cost 1, mana 20, wisps)
and alot more custom abilites to come... and a few trigger abilities.

~Cheers
Donar


PS.
Please if anyone has more on their mind about the screenshots, the accual map, or any ideas/comments about how the map plays... or whatever, please dont hesitate, i will respond best i can.

 

[elmstfreddie]

The screenshots look great, but be aware that many custom models will probably cause the game to lag if they are massed.
You should have a RAM requirement warning

 

[SgtDonar]

I don't think that massing custom modeled units will cause lag.
It hasnt for me, the only thing that makes it lag is the troll slam ability, when i use the sleep animation for it.

Does anyone have any feature suggestions? I love input from players~!

 

[elmstfreddie]

Make all archers have piercing damage, call it arrows, and then the orcs with shields should get defend (like in the movie where they carry the shields above their head) which protects against 99% of arrow attacks. Siege weaponry should do MORE damage to shielded foes though.

 

[SgtDonar]

elmstfreddie,
Hmmmm, thats a good idea, have defend accually be like a morph, and give them fortified defence.
I like it! Ill be sure to write that down!

Also, im going to add a special thanks area for people like elmstfreddie.

Remember, the more suggestions and ideas, the better!!

 

[elmstfreddie]

Every unit should have a % chance to miss, with a bigger percent on Orcs and Archers. The % should be really low of course, because they don't miss very often
They should also get a critical strike for instant death of the enemy, but yet again a very low chance (like hitting their heart or something)

 

[SgtDonar]

Another star-studded idea!

 

[Battle[StFh]]

I... I... I LOVE HELMS DEEP!!!

Oh Please finish this and make it a balanced and fun to play Helms Deep!

All the best

 

[SgtDonar]

Thanks for the cheering, Battle!

In other news: my 1.8 map has been downloaded 228 times!

(well im happy at least!)

 

[elmstfreddie]

I haven't gotten around to dling it, because I make more maps than actually play them lol.

I'll dl it and play it next time I'm on.

Edit > As of 5:00 PM MST (exactly) I am downloading the map and playing on BNet lol

 

[SgtDonar]

What did ya think?

 

[elmstfreddie]

Yeah... uhh... About me playing...
I hosted, when I hit start game the game crashed, then someone came online talked etc etc

Point is I haven't gotten around to hosting it again >.<