is it possible to unally yourself?

[Red_drake]

or is there a way for your own units to treat eachother as enemies, or be able to auto attack eachother?

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a swam of units needs a 'controler' type unit around them (control is represented by mana atm), and when control(mana) reaches 0, they go 'feral' and attack everything (including their allies).
it would be easy to put them on some neutral hostile team, but then 'feral' units wouldnt attack eachother.

is there a way to do this so that a single unit is allied to no player/computer?

 

[DioD]

all units or none, such options is player based.

call SetPlayerAlliance(Player(0), Player(0), ALLIANCE_X, false)

 

[Bogrim]

The only way to make units attack friendly units is to order them to do so. The AI behavior will never do it. Use a periodic trigger to pick all units of the type that lacks the debuff and order them to attack a nearby random unit. Use a second trigger which detects when the player tries to issue an order to the unit and override that order in the trigger (be sure to turn off the trigger every time you issue an order through triggers to avoid creating an infinite loop).

 

[Red_drake]

well, thats lame and seems overly complicated : (

will DioD's solution even work?

if not, i guess ill have to trigger it all

 

[Ashlebede]

You'd have to trigger it all, for you can only ally/unally players, indeed. You can unally yourself, though. It will take away the control from your own units, that's pretty much all it'll do.

 

[DioD]

control and ally mode if different attributes.

you can unally self, soo your units will attack each other BUT keep vision and control over them.

 

[Weep]

you can unally self, soo your units will attack each other BUT keep vision and control over them.

I've tried, but can't get my own units to attack each other automatically. Can you please post a demo map where it works?

 

[DioD]

call SetPlayerAlliance(Player(0), Player(0), ALLIANCE_PASSIVE, false)

this is demo map, have fun and read post 2.

 

[Weep]

I don't see a map, but I was able to get it to work. Neat!

As it turns out, my problem was trying to do it in GUI, not realizing that

• Player - For Player 1 (Red), turn Alliance (non-aggression) Off toward Player 1 (Red)

would not work because that GUI action calls [ljass]SetPlayerAllianceBJ[/ljass], which prevents alliance changes toward the same player. Using your line as a custom script worked.

 

[Red_drake]

so i can just do what DioD said and ully myself in jass and itll work?

awesome! thanks

now, the fun part.

if im using neutral passive and neutral hostile players, what computer team should i give these 'feral' units to?
also, playesr 0-11 are used as well, 13 is my neutral passive player, and neutral hostile units are placed using the 'neutral hostile' player when placing units directly in the editor.

 

[Weep]

Well, any of the unused Neutral players would work OK. Just set them to be enemies with every other player first.

Also, you'll need a way to remember which player used to own the units in order to restore control.

 

[Red_drake]

that shouldnt be a problem.

also: players 0-11 are taken, player 13 is taken, is player 12 the "neutral hostile" player? or is that another player entirely?

 

[Weep]

Player(12) is Neutral Hostile, you're using 13 (Neutral Victim), but there's also 14 (Neutral Extra) and 15 (Neutral Passive).

 

[Red_drake]

ah, ok so there are more.
didnt know that till now XD

thanks!

 

[DioD]

dont use neutral hostile for any applications, it have hardcoded AI and hardcoded minimap display.

also do not ally youself with any neutrals, it will glich vision (you will see projectiles over fog of war and other problems)