Which should I buy?

[Hero]

Hello everyone i'm buying another laptop. Which do you think is better? I am currently leaning towards the A52JR-X1.

ASUS A52JR-X1
Specs:

Model
Brand	ASUS
Model	A52JR-X1
General
Operating System	Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU Type	Intel Core i5 430M(2.26GHz)
Screen	15.6"
Memory Size	4GB DDR3
Hard Disk	500GB
Optical Drive	DVD Super Multi
Graphics Card	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470
Video Memory	1GB DDR3 VRAM
Communication	Gigabit LAN and WLAN
Dimensions	15.20" x 10.20" x 1.40"
Weight	5.80 lbs.
CPU
CPU Type	Intel Core i5
CPU Speed	430M(2.26GHz)
Chipset
Chipset	Intel HM55
Display
Screen Size	15.6"
Wide Screen Support	Yes
Resolution	1366 x 768
LCD Features	LED backlight
Operating Systems
Operating System	Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Graphics
GPU/VPU	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470
Video Memory	1GB DDR3 VRAM
Graphic Type	Dedicated Card
Hard Drive
HDD	500GB
HDD RPM	5400rpm
Memory
Memory	4GB
Memory Type	204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM
Memory Slot (Total)	2
Optical Drive
Optical Drive Type	DVD Super Multi
Optical Drive Interface	Integrated
Communications
LAN	10/100/1000Mbps
WLAN	802.11bgn Wireless LAN
Ports
USB	3
Video Port	1 x VGA, 1 x HDMI
Audio Ports	Yes
Audio
Audio	Integrated Sound card
Speaker	Internal Speakers
Input Device
Touchpad	Yes
Keyboard	Standard
Supplemental Drive
Card Reader	4-in-1 Card Reader, SD, MMC, MS, MS PRO
Webcam	0.3MP
Power
Battery	6-cell lithium ion
Physical spec
Dimensions	15.20" x 10.20" x 1.40"
Weight	5.80 lbs.
Manufacturer Warranty
Parts	2 years limited
Labor	2 years limited

OR

ASUS X83VP-A1

Specs:

Model
Brand	ASUS
Model	X83VP-A1
General
Operating System	Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU Type	Intel Core 2 Duo P8700 2.53G
Screen	14.1" WXGA
Memory Size	4GB
Hard Disk	500GB
Optical Drive	DVD Super Multi
Graphics Card	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650
Video Memory	1GB VRAM DDR3
Weight	5.5 lbs.
Other Features	30days Zero Bright Dot LCD
Energy Star 4.0
CPU
CPU Type	Intel Core 2 Duo
CPU Speed	P8700(2.53GHz)
CPU FSB	1066MHz
CPU L2 Cache	3MB
Chipset
Chipset	Intel PM45
Display
Screen Size	14.1"
Wide Screen Support	Yes
Display Type	Wide XGA
Resolution	1280 x 800
Operating Systems
Operating System	Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Graphics
GPU/VPU	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650
Video Memory	1GB VRAM DDR3
Graphic Type	Dedicated Card
Hard Drive
HDD	500GB
HDD RPM	5400rpm
Memory
Memory	4GB
Memory Speed	DDR2 800
Memory Spec	2GB x 2
Memory Type	200-Pin DDR2 SO-DIMM
Memory Slot (Total)	2
Memory Slot (Available)	0
Max Memory Supported	4GB
Optical Drive
Optical Drive Type	DVD Super Multi
Optical Drive Interface	Integrated
Communications
LAN	10/100/1000Mbps
WLAN	802.11 b/g/n Wireless LAN
Ports
USB	5
Video Port	1 x VGA, 1 x HDMI
Other port	1 x eSATA
Audio Ports	Yes
Audio
Audio	Integrated Sound card
Speaker	Internal Speakers
Input Device
Touchpad	Yes
Keyboard	Standard
Supplemental Drive
Card Reader	8-in-1 card reader, SD, MMC, MS, MS-Pro, mini SD w/ adapter, MS-Duo, MS-Pro Duo via adapter
Webcam	1.3MP
Power
Battery	6-cell lithium ion
Physical spec
Weight	5.5 lbs.
Manufacturer Warranty
Accidental Damage Warranty	1 year ASUS Accidental Damage Warranty - Drops, Fire, Spill, Surge
Parts	2 years limited
Labor	2 years limited

Also if you know another gaming laptop under $1000.00 let me know.

Thanks

-Hero

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Its been a while since I've visited or posted on this site. However I will most likely be coming back

 

[Slapshot136]

well the first one is newer, but the 2nd one is about as powerful overall, and also smaller - really the size is the biggest difference, 1.5" may not seem like a lot but it is quite significant, also HP has some pretty good laptops in the near/sub 1000 range every now and then when a coupon comes along

edit: here's my example of a HP getting cheap after coupons (it's a 17" though)

coupon: NBLB654877
you must configure it to $1500, then the coupon will take 300 off, and they also have another 200 instant rebate, making the final price 1000+

and for a 15"
NBS978841
here

 

[sqrage]

I like everything better on the 1st one except for the video card so it's a hard choice.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

#93 and #49

 

[Hero]

well the first one is newer, but the 2nd one is about as powerful overall, and also smaller - really the size is the biggest difference, 1.5" may not seem like a lot but it is quite significant, also HP has some pretty good laptops in the near/sub 1000 range every now and then when a coupon comes along

edit: here's my example of a HP getting cheap after coupons (it's a 17" though)

coupon: NBLB654877
you must configure it to $1500, then the coupon will take 300 off, and they also have another 200 instant rebate, making the final price 1000+

and for a 15"
NBS978841
here

Thank you for the opinion. However I have had a bad experience with HP my last 2 laptops. They always seem to fail right after warranty is over. And the last one I bought was really expensive. So I do not think I am going to go with HP anymore.

I like everything better on the 1st one except for the video card so it's a hard choice.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

#93 and #49

sqrage, which do you think is better, in your opinion. Im still stuck on the first one. However if the graphics card is going to hinder the overall power, then I will have to side with the second one. Unless there are alternatives.

 

[Slapshot136]

well as far as gaming goes, the 2nd ones is better - faster CPU and better graphics card

for most other uses the 1st one is better (more cpu cores)

so decide on your usage..

also for basic stuff it won't really matter (word/internet/etc.), I mean like media programs/compressing/extracting/encoding stuff is where you will see the 1st one do better..

 

[Hero]

well as far as gaming goes, the 2nd ones is better - faster CPU and better graphics card

for most other uses the 1st one is better (more cpu cores)

so decide on your usage..

also for basic stuff it won't really matter (word/internet/etc.), I mean like media programs/compressing/extracting/encoding stuff is where you will see the 1st one do better..

The first one also uses DDR3 over the 2nd one's DDR2.

Which will also make a huge difference. I mean, the graphics card just needs to be good enough for like mass effect 2, fall out 3, bioshock 2, and starcraft 2. haha

 

[Slapshot136]

The first one also uses DDR3 over the 2nd one's DDR2.

Which will also make a huge difference.

not really.. it does make a difference, but only a small one..

see this for proof

 

[Hero]

not really.. it does make a difference, but only a small one..

see this for proof

Thanks for the info. Makes me want the second one more. Do you know any other good gaming laptops for a similar price range?

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Ok now this got thrown into the mix:

Acer Aspire AS5740G-6395

Specs:

Model
Brand	Acer
Series	Aspire
Model	AS5740G-6395
Part#	LX.PMB02.071
General
Operating System	Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU Type	Intel Core i5-520M(2.4GHz)
Screen	15.6"
Memory Size	4GB DDR3
Hard Disk	320GB
Optical Drive	DVD Super Multi
Graphics Card	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650
Video Memory	1GB DDR3 VRAM
Communication	Modem, Gigabit LAN and WLAN
Battery Life	3.0 hours
Dimensions	15.10" x 9.90" x 1.03" - 1.50"
Weight	6.16 lbs.
CPU
CPU Type	Intel Core i5
CPU Speed	520M(2.40GHz)
Chipset
Chipset	Intel HM55
Display
Screen Size	15.6"
Wide Screen Support	Yes
Resolution	1366 x 768
LCD Features	LED backlight & Acer CineCrystal Technology
Operating Systems
Operating System	Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Graphics
GPU/VPU	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650
Video Memory	1GB DDR3 VRAM
Graphic Type	Dedicated Card
Hard Drive
HDD	320GB
HDD RPM	5400rpm
HDD Interface	SATA
Memory
Memory	4GB
Memory Speed	DDR3 1066
Memory Spec	2GB x 2
Memory Type	204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM
Memory Slot (Total)	2
Memory Slot (Available)	0
Max Memory Supported	8GB
Optical Drive
Optical Drive Type	DVD Super Multi
Optical Drive Interface	Integrated
Optical Drive Spec	8X DVD-Super Multi Double-Layer Drive
Read: 24X CD-ROM, 24X CD-R, 24X CD-RW, 8X DVD-ROM, 8X DVD±R, 6X DVD-ROM DL (double-layer), 6X DVD±R DL, 6X DVD±RW, 5X DVD-RAM
Write: 24X CD-R, 16X CD-RW, 8X DVD±R, 4X DVD±R DL, 6X DVD-RW, 8X DVD+RW, 5X DVD-RAM
Communications
Modem	V.92 56K
LAN	10/100/1000Mbps
WLAN	802.11b/g/Draft-N
Ports
USB	4
Video Port	1 x VGA, 1 x HDMI
Audio Ports	Yes
Audio
Audio	True 5.1 Channel Surround Sound Output
3rd Generation Dolby Home Theater Audio Enhancement, featuring Dolby Digital Live, Dolby Pro Logic IIx, Dolby Headphone, Dolby Natural Bass, Dolby Sound Space Expander, Dolby Audio Optimization, Dolby High Frequency Enhancer Technologies
High Definition Audio Support
Built-in Microphone
Speaker	Two Built-in Stereo Speakers
Input Device
Touchpad	Multi-gesture Touchpad (Circular-motion scrolling, pinch-action zoom, page flip)
Keyboard	Standard
Supplemental Drive
Card Reader	Multi-in-1 Digital Media Card Reader
Secure Digital (SD), MultiMediaCard (MMC), Memory Stick (MS), Memory Stick PRO (MS PRO), xD-Picture Card (xD)
Webcam	Yes
Power
Battery	6-Cell Lithium-Ion (4400 mAh)
Battery Life	3.0 hours
Physical spec
Dimensions	15.10" x 9.90" x 1.03" - 1.50"
Weight	6.16 lbs.
Manufacturer Warranty
Parts	1 year limited
Labor	1 year limited

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Ok I think this just destroys them all. It is cheaper and has an insane graphics card. The core is a little slower, but I think it is worth it.

ASUS G51VX-RX05

Specs:

Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista Premium 64-bit with Service Pack 1.
Precessor: Intel Core 2 P7350. 
Precessor Speed: 2. 0GHz. 
Precessor Cache: 3 MB L2 Cache. 
Bus Speed: 1066MHz. 
Memory: 4 GB System Memory(DDR2 800). 
Max supported: 4 GB. 
Video Graphics: Nvidia GeForce GTX 260M with 1GB GDDR3. 
Memory Hard Drive: 320GB SATA (7200RPM). 
Multimedia Drive: SuperMulti DVDRW drive. 
Display: 15. 6” HD (1366x768) Widescreen LED backlight LCD 
Webcam: 1. 3MP 
Microphone: Yes. 
Facial Recognition: Yes. 
Network Card: Integrated 10/100 Mbps. Fast Ethernet Wireless Option: Integrated Intel 802. 11b/g/n. 
Digital Media: MMC/SD/Mini-SD/XD/Memory Stick/MS Pro/ MS-Duo/MS-Pro-Duo. 
Audio: Stereo, built-in Azalia Compliant Audio Chip. 
Keyboard: Illuminant chicklit keyboard. 
Pointing Device: 16:9 wide touchpad. 
External Notebook Ports: 1 VGA port (D-sub 15-pin) 4 USB 2. 0 ports 1 LAN RJ-45 1 IEEE1394 Firewire jack 1 HDMI 3 Audio Jacks (Headphone out/Microphone in/Line-In) 1 Card reader 1 SATA 
Finish: Glossy White, Republic of Gamers Emblem, Black 
Dimensions: 14. 76"(L) x 10. 43"(W) x 1. 35 1. 60"(D), 
Weight: 7. 28lbs. 
Battery: 2 Hours and 7 Minutes, 6-Cell 2. 4 AH Lithium-ion.
Warranty and Support: Limited 90 Day Warranty. 
Security and Support: ASUS AI Recovery , ASUS Data Security Manager , ASUS LifeFrame 3 , ASUS Live Update Utility , ASUS Power 4 Gear Hybrid Norton Internet Security 2008 , ASUS Smart Logon Producitivity and Finance: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8, CyberLink Power2Go Nero 8 Essentials.

 

[Hero]

I don't mean to bump this, but I am buying one of these today. So far I am siding with the

ASUS G51VX-RX05.

Which I posted above. What do you guys think?

 

[Slapshot136]

I think it's fine, also found a gateway at ~800 if you want to take a look at a slightly cheaper laptop

http://www.jr.com/gateway/pe/GTW_NV5926U/?JRSource=linkshare&SiteID=lw9MynSeamY-%2Fd%2FvfVHOPtuin1pcvvpEng - black

http://www.jr.com/gateway/pe/GTW_NV5924U/?JRSource=linkshare&SiteID=lw9MynSeamY-%2Fd%2FvfVHOPtvjl2oYOmfM0Q - blue

specs:
Intel Core i5-430M 2.26
4gb ddr3
500GB 5400RPM HD
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650
15.6" LED-backlit Display (1600 x 900)

also gateway is owned by acer, just a FYI, kinda like how alienware is owned by dell

 

[Xorifelse]

I'd buy neither of them, simply because Intel processors accumulate more energy today than the AMD processors. Less energy usage is more battery time which is what a laptop is all about.

Now, I'm not saying that this counts on all CPU's by either manufactures, but AMD has proven to be quite good at them laptop CPU's.
Less energy consumption means less heat generation as well, but I do have to admit that this was the other way around 3 or 4 years ago.
Also, AMD is going to release a quad core for laptops which might be worth looking into because it's using less energy than most the CPU's on the market.

Not only that, the hard drivers are both 500GB which basically says they are RPM drives. ( read below )

I think it's fine, also found a gateway at ~800 if you want to take a look at a slightly cheaper laptop

http://www.jr.com/gateway/pe/GTW_NV5926U/?JRSource=linkshare&SiteID=lw9MynSeamY-%2Fd%2FvfVHOPtuin1pcvvpEng - black

http://www.jr.com/gateway/pe/GTW_NV5924U/?JRSource=linkshare&SiteID=lw9MynSeamY-%2Fd%2FvfVHOPtvjl2oYOmfM0Q - blue

specs:
Intel Core i5-430M 2.26
4gb ddr3
500GB 5400RPM HD
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650
15.6" LED-backlit Display (1600 x 900)

also gateway is owned by acer, just a FYI, kinda like how alienware is owned by dell

Why would ANY one today buy a laptop with a RPM drive?
Solid State Drives are 20x faster than RPM drives and consume WAY less energy and heat.

Pros of SSD's

• Much faster than RPM drives
• Consume less energy
• Weight is lesser

Cons of SSD's

• Size
• Dollar per GB

SSD's are more expensive but they are increasing in size every day, they also become even faster. The access time of SSD's are really good and this is a HUGE pro. Today the speed of your computer really depends on the drive itself and not the CPU. Even if the CPU you choose is 1 of the best it's waiting for data to arrive from the hard disk when you're loading a game for example. The speed is literally noticeable anywhere, from loading an application from starting up windows. In fact, without an SSD you can't get above a "6" in Windows 7 hardware rater.

Laptops are about using it everywhere without a wire to a wall socket, it is not meant to use it as a storage device and even if you do you can buy a external drive or pay much more money for a huge SSD drive or just wait a few months till they drop in prices again.

The less energy a laptop uses the better, and these two reasons I gave you should really get you thinking on why you want to buy a laptop. Do you want it for flexibility, or as a replacement for your desktop PC.

 

[sqrage]

AMD processors don't run nearly as good as Intel ones so that would explain their lack of energy consumption. And laptops are not all about battery life, they are about transportability. If he wanted battery life, he wouldn't be getting 4 cores, a big screen, or a dedicated video card.

And sure SSDs might be "25x faster" than HDDs but they are also 35x more expensive. He is obviously on a budget as he's choosing between two $850 laptops and not two $2,000 ones.

Last, please get your terminology right. RPM = revolutions per minute. "Revolutions per minute drives" Doesn't sound right to me.

 

[Xorifelse]

AMD processors don't run nearly as good as Intel ones so that would explain their lack of energy consumption.

That's a matter of opinion and mostly usage. Also what really does explain the lack of energy consumption is the size of the processor architecture, in this case I believe 32nm.

And laptops are not all about battery life, they are about transportability. If he wanted battery life, he wouldn't be getting 4 cores, a big screen, or a dedicated video card.

As said before, the new laptop series of the AMD processor line is a quad core and use less energy than a dual core intel processor, not only that it's faster as well. But than again, I don't think you really understand what the difference of architecture of the AMD and Intel processors really do if you make a statement like "AMD processors don't run nearly as good as Intel".
Also LED screens use lesser energy than the traditional LCD screens, you can have all of the advantages if you just don't buy the laptop now and just save up for a few extra months.

And sure SSDs might be "25x faster" than HDDs but they are also 35x more expensive. He is obviously on a budget as he's choosing between two $850 laptops and not two $2,000 ones.

Sure, you basically say he can buy a crappy laptop now and buy a new one 2 years later because the laptop he bought is beginning to get slow because the of the hard drive and progressing software. This is an interesting topic of game development as well, they don't nearly program as efficient as 5 years ago. And all because you told him to to don't "spend" that extra 600 bucks on a good new laptop which could last for years.

He could just buy a laptop now with a 64gb ssd which aren't really that expensive anymore, and have an external hdd as a storage device ( if he really needs that extra space ).

Last, please get your terminology right. RPM = revolutions per minute. "Revolutions per minute drives" Doesn't sound right to me.

Perhaps it doesn't sound right yet, but it does make sense. Solid State Drives are becoming to get the future because of the way they operate. These are the ONLY drives out there that doesn't have moveable parts, so referring to all the other older drives RPM suits the best, cause you have a lot of RPM drives: SCSI, ATA, and you can go back to the early 1970's.
Also, you know I mean hard disks in this specific topic.

Remember, laptops aren't desktop PC's, where you could simply replace the hardware for a better one.

 

[Samuraid]

I'd buy neither of them, simply because Intel processors accumulate more energy today than the AMD processors. Less energy usage is more battery time which is what a laptop is all about.

As of the currently-released mobile CPUs on the market, AMD's latest and greatest is the Turion II, which is a 45nm dual-core part.

Turion II has a 25-35W TDP, operates using 2 cores with 2 threads total, and doesn't include an on-package GPU; Intel Arrandale has an 18-35W TDP, operates using 2 cores with 4 threads total and turbo boost (Core i5/i7), and does include an on-package GPU. I'd say that power efficiency is currently in Intel's favor, especially given the relative performance.

That said, this could change when AMD's next mobile CPUs come out in May.

 

[Xorifelse]

I didn't know AMD's latest processor family hasn't come out yet, because it's common that a new family is released every 4 months or so and since the last release was in September I thought it was released in January, my mistake.

Anyhow, I think Wikipedia is a little outdated with things like this. http://www.notebookcheck.net/ is a pretty neat website and they have a list of benchmarks with CPU's for notebooks. Higher Mhz doesn't always result in the better performance, it's all about the benchmarks and they did quite a lot of them.

I'd love to continue to elaborate more about this topic, but that would make it a little off-topic. Good post though, it seems Intel is ahead in the game of laptop CPU's, but we'll see in a few months how that is gonna change.. again..
But I do have a question, what do you mean with "on-package GPU"?

@Hero
The website has also a pretty neat feature of selecting the laptop with suits you the best. You don't strictly have to take HP laptops, that be a silly thing to do.

The CPU is an important thing in the laptop since it can't be replaced, sometimes the HD can be replaced but I'd still advice you to buy a laptop with an SSD. So collect a little bit more money so you don't have to buy a new laptop anytime soon.

 

[Slapshot136]

But I do have a question, what do you mean with "on-package GPU"?

it means that the CPU also has it's own on-board graphics (no, not integrated on the motherboard like all other integrated, and not external - integrated into the CPU)

also intel has various energy-efficient mobile CPU's:
SU series : 10 W
SL series: 12 W
L series: 20W (most are 17 anyways)
P series : 25W

AMD and regular T series CPU's are 35W, as well as the i5 CPU's posted earlier.. and then there are most quad's that use 45W, giving you a wide range to choose from..
and like others said, this isn't made for great battery life, and you didn't even post a link to a better amd-based computer for comparison..

also SSD's just dont have capacity - you wont find a 500GB ssd for < $1000 right now, sure it would be great to have them, but they just are too expensive.. like I said earlier, post a better one as an example, instead of just saying that better stuff exists - sure it does, and always will, but can you find it now for a similar price? if you do post it, if you can't, well that's not too useful for those who want to buy now..

 

[Samuraid]

Anyhow, I think Wikipedia is a little outdated with things like this.

Feel free to edit and update it then, if you find anything outdated or wrong.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/ is a pretty neat website and they have a list of benchmarks with CPU's for notebooks. Higher Mhz doesn't always result in the better performance, it's all about the benchmarks and they did quite a lot of them.

I'm aware of that site and check it frequently.

But I do have a question, what do you mean with "on-package GPU"?

The 32nm Arrandale CPUs have a GPU built into them. It is not on the CPU die itself, but is a separate 45nm GPU die that is housed on the same chip ("package").
Thus, if your laptop has a Core i3 or i5 Arrandale CPU, you automatically have an integrated GPU. It's not amazingly fast, but it's still good for non-gaming uses.

For a 35W TDP, AMD gives you a dual core CPU only. For a 35W TDP, Intel gives you a dual core hyperthreaded CPU and a GPU.

 

[Xorifelse]

you didn't even post a link to a better amd-based computer for comparison..

Don't have to, Samuraid already did. I thought the new Phenom mobile processors (x4) of AMD where already released. They have a 25 TPD, and from what I've read (www.tweakers.net, dutch large and accurate tweaking/computing community) this will take the latest Intel processor down a nudge. I'm not an AMD fanboy or anything, I choose what's currently the best CPU on the market, which is currently Intel. Sorry for the miss confusion.

also SSD's just dont have capacity - you wont find a 500GB ssd for < $1000 right now, sure it would be great to have them, but they just are too expensive.. like I said earlier, post a better one as an example, instead of just saying that better stuff exists - sure it does, and always will, but can you find it now for a similar price? if you do post it, if you can't, well that's not too useful for those who want to buy now..

And what I'm saying is that "now" is overrated. We are leaning to a new ara of laptops. Everybody wants the best "bang for their buck", and SSD's really are that much better than other HD's. He obviously wants a laptop, sure. But does he "really" need it, does he need it now? 3 months waiting to buy that laptop and the new processor family comes out. This would reduce the costs of older models of CPU's, and in that time SSD's will be cheaper as well. And in that 3 months you can collect that extra 300 bucks for a much, much better laptop.

Feel free to edit and update it then, if you find anything outdated or wrong.

That's a full time job for technology, thus useless in my eyes. There are better ways to deal with these issues, such as RSS. I personally think Wikipedia needs to update that part.

The 32nm Arrandale CPUs have a GPU built into them. It is not on the CPU die itself, but is a separate 45nm GPU die that is housed on the same chip ("package").
Thus, if your laptop has a Core i3 or i5 Arrandale CPU, you automatically have an integrated GPU. It's not amazingly fast, but it's still good for non-gaming uses.

For a 35W TDP, AMD gives you a dual core CPU only. For a 35W TDP, Intel gives you a dual core hyperthreaded CPU and a GPU.

Obviously he wants a dedicated video card seen in his first post, and this technology obviously costs more while it isn't used. Good to know, I give you that. Also a processor can be titled any way people want, hyperthreaded, tripple ownage mega memory connection, but in the end it's all about the benchmarks.

 

[Slapshot136]

Don't have to, Samuraid already did.

no, not just a cpu, but a full laptop that has what you mentioned

 

[Xorifelse]

http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/s...ies&aoid=20715&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=NX369AV

There you go, starting from $1,299.99. You can upgrade it with SSD's which obviously will cost a little more, somewhere around the line of $1,500. Yes I realize that this is 180% of what he was willing to spend, but that is only when he wants to buy it now. Wait a few months and prices will drop for an SSD laptop, saving up cash with a gigantic performance increase.