Anyone else having fun making spells?

[INCINERATE]

with the data editor alone you can make practically anything, Best of all because its in the data editor, it practically guarantee's the best performance possible (unless blizzard codes thier game badly) , so its leakfree good stuff.

In war3 it was the belief that any spell not supported by triggers was bland and boring (which i agree )so you needed guys who new their jass very well to make any fancy spells. You could make it in gui, but the lag and Non mui situations and unpreventable leaks was just fucking painfull.... Gui is hot trash in war3.

Anyway right now The tides have changed.. i think if you make trigger enchanced spells in sc2, The people here at thehelper can actually Point out wrong doing .. Cause if the overall aim of a custom spell is
1)efficiency
2)leak free
3)working great spell

its all possible in the data editor of sc2.. so its actually bad practice in my opinion to trigger enhance any spell in sc2. ,...

Now i can tell you trigger expert guys that "because you use codes, your spell will never be as good as a data editor made spell " .. so boy have the tables turned lol

we all know the people here.. ready to jump onto anybody's custom spell in war3 to tell them to not code in gui, learn jass, u fail etc LOL..

Btw i just made a flaming wheel go outwards then around the hero very easily, i even created a pentagram.. this is something i could not do at all in war3..
I love sc2 editor.. except for its multilevel support. other than that its great

 

[Renendaru]

Btw i just made a flaming wheel go outwards then around the hero very easily, i even created a pentagram.. this is something i could not do at all in war3..
I love sc2 editor.. except for its multilevel support. other than that its great

I made a spell that made it so that if that unit came within DIRECT contact with another unit is would die instantly. Then I put it on a baneling, which rolled, at incredible speeds. Plus, I added a sprint ability to it, plus a jumping ability. Chaos ensued.

 

[Dan]

put together some spells for us to see in a test map so we can share in your revel! Because... My knowledge of the data editor could use some of your brains.

 

[INCINERATE]

on sc2mapster there are already a ton of them posted with their appropriate sample maps

http://sc2movie.com/tag/312-ability.html

 

[13lade619]

well yeah.. no offense, just an observation.

People who did not learn to code in wc3 : "Epic stuff I can do EVERYTHING."
People who learned to code in wc3: "...so? I can still do that in wc3."

and this is pretty cool though:
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[Kildare]

I beg to differ from your opinion. I think that both have their own strengths and advantages. As far as I can tell, they each are able to do certain things that the other can't, or is more efficient at it. There are still things with Triggers that the Data Editor can't do(e.g. functions, custom dialog, unit groups etc), but unlike WCIII, this time the Data Editor has things that Triggers have trouble doing(e.g. Turrets, Actors, etc).

 

[INCINERATE]

everything you mentioned there kildare had nothing to do with spell making and that was my soul aim of this post.

Its obvious u need triggers for win/loose stuff, and dialogs.. that's a given.

i refereed specifically to "trigger enhanced spells" and i don't see anything the data editor Cant Do better, than the trigger editor when making spells.

 

[Ancanus]

The harder it is to use, the more elegant it seems to be.

Just wait till they release the assembler.

 

[SerraAvenger]

Anyway right now The tides have changed.. i think if you make trigger enchanced spells in sc2, The people here at thehelper can actually Point out wrong doing ..

Nonsense.

Cause if the overall aim of a custom spell is
1)efficiency
2)leak free
3)working great spell

1) Using GUI should be similarly efficient to using the coding that's available in the data editor.
2) galaxy has a GC so this point is just nonsense.
3) So what? There's stuff you can get to work so much easier in a coded spell, things that are much easier to adjust and stuff. The catalog action makes coding the tool of trade.

its all possible in the data editor of sc2.. so its actually bad practice in my opinion to trigger enhance any spell in sc2. ,...

That's like saying "you can code in wordpad just fine... Using an IDE is bad practice".

Now i can tell you trigger expert guys that "because you use codes, your spell will never be as good as a data editor made spell " .. so boy have the tables turned lol

No they haven't. Before you needed both oe and te to create a good spell - now much more is possible in data module alone, but the data module uses triggering itself. There is so much spell relevant stuff the data module cannot do without coding... As a matter of fact, you have to basically code everything right now. You just didn't notice because the coding is done in the data module.

we all know the people here.. ready to jump onto anybody's custom spell in war3 to tell them to not code in gui, learn jass, u fail etc LOL..

For a reason.

Your whole post just shows how little you understand of SC2 and WC3.

Btw i just made a flaming

You just made a flame war thread. I'll ask a mod to close it.