Sci/Tech Google's self-guided car could drive the next wave of unemployment

[Nyph]

"BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH" In the Middle of the Highway. Just saying

"Heart attack/stroke/falling asleep/drunk" In the Middle of the Highway. Just Saying

 

[Accname]

I can see the next hobby of wannabe haXX0r script kiddies in the near future.

 

[FireCat]

Yeah ^

"Heart attack/stroke/falling asleep/drunk" In the Middle of the Highway. Just Saying

Your self-driving car hit another self driving car. Who's going to pay? Oh, you don't even have a license. LOL Hmm what if a collision is due to a bug in software? It might even hit a "Human etc.." Just because of a Bug? Just saying again.

 

[Siretu]

Your self-driving car hit another self driving car. Who's going to pay? Oh, you don't even have a license. LOL Hmm what if a collision is due to a bug in software? It might even hit a "Human etc.." Just because of a Bug? Just saying again.

Let's pretend everyone transitions into self-driving cars and that there are now 1000 deaths due to driving accidents every year. Is this a bad thing?

Of course it's bad. People died. The question is if it's better than what we currently have. Would you rather have 33000 deaths(This is for the U.S only in 2009. With the rest of the world combined there's a lot more) due to human drivers or 1000 due to self-driving cars.

Now, there's been one accident so far where a self-driving car was involved(which is talked about in the article FireCat linked) but it was when it was in manual mode(the human was controlling it). The article is very biased and stupid, imo.

If this get wide spread, I think it's going to result in less than 1000 deaths a year. If there are bugs, they'll get fixed. If people die due to these bugs, it's a tragedy of course but I'd rather have those people die to bugs than 100 times more people dying because of human error. Code improves, humans in general don't(sure individuals get better but old people die and young people get driver's license. The general skill level stays the same).

On the argument about hardware, I don't know why this is a problem and airplanes are not. You can bet there's a ton of sensors on an airplane that are needed for flight. Should airplanes be disregarded as a way to travel because the sensors might fail which might cause a crash?

 

[Accname]

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On the argument about hardware, I don't know why this is a problem and airplanes are not. You can bet there's a ton of sensors on an airplane that are needed for flight. Should airplanes be disregarded as a way to travel because the sensors might fail which might cause a crash?

Airplanes are pretty expensive and there are dozens of engineers checking them everyday (hopefully).
Your car is not supposed to transport hundreds of people, just you, maybe family and friends.
Its just you who is paying the price, not hundreds of people paying for each flight.
And you are lazy. You dont want to inspect the sh*t out of your car before and after each drive.
People do this with planes, they need constant safety checks.

 

[Siretu]

I agree, but I think (I'm no expert) that there are many more sensors on a plane. Hopefully, they'll work out a solution where the electronics checks the hardware for faults and then a car mechanic can take a closer look during your regular check ups.

 

[FireCat]

First of all. I don't think the article is stupid at all

Updated 3:51 p.m. PST: Google would only give me a further one-line statement. A spokesman
said: "The car was in manual mode at the time. We have confirmed it in our logs." The spokesman however, has not been willing to explain what actually happened.

However, an NBC Bay Area report featured a woman called Tiffany Winkelman, who claimed that this was a five-car accident and that hers was the third car to be hit. It allegedly involved three Priuses and two Honda Accords, with the self-driving Prius being the one that caused the shunt.

Does Google have something to hide? Why not tell the truth? No wonder there's some doubt, If they can't even say what truly happened.

Well, maybe in 20-30 years it could be considered pretty safe. But not now. And of course, It would be great if it does reduce the fatal accidents. But people still need to have some level of control over the cars. The same for airplanes.
You see, the airplanes don't fly away alone"without pilots" No matter what!
Btw: bugs, can't be fixed when you already on the road.

 

[Siretu]

They are not hiding what's happening. The spokesman said everything he could. He's a spokesman and they're investigating the issue he's not supposed to tell people what he thinks happened, he's supposed to release a statement which he did.

Of course there's an investigation and if they lied about it'll get known and they'll get more shit for it than if they had been open about it. Why would they risk it?

 

[Slapshot136]

In the article it says the cars cost about $300000.

$300k per car when you only make 300 sounds about right.. $30k sounds a lot better when you make 10k cars, and less as you make more

"BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH" In the Middle of the Highway. Just saying

no, the cars won't use windows - they will be based off linux

 

[camelCase]

Also, I'm pretty sure the blue screen error isn't necessarily Windows' fault..
Other OSs have their versions of the "blue screen of death"; just not necessarily blue.

The entertainment system on a UA flight I was on kept crashing; it was running on a Linux. Then again, the system must've been really badly scripted (not gonna' say coded) because every time it rebooted, it would show every single damn warning and error in the source; after which it displayed initialization errors like missing fonts and audio.

 

[Varine]

I thought we were running out of helium :/

Bah! They said that about oil too.

 

[Nyph]

Your self-driving car hit another self driving car. Who's going to pay? Oh, you don't even have a license. LOL Hmm what if a collision is due to a bug in software? It might even hit a "Human etc.." Just because of a Bug? Just saying again.

Humans have far more bugs than well-built code.

 

[Varine]

We also got cool, unrestricted self driving car on self driving car violence. These cars are unmanned and unlicensed, in a head on collision to the max!

 

[camelCase]

*Opens car.ini*
[CarBehaviour]
aggression=9001
*Save*

 

[Nyph]

If they updated their drivers, there wouldn't have been a crash. lol.

 

[Accname]

$300k per car when you only make 300 sounds about right.. $30k sounds a lot better when you make 10k cars, and less as you make more
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I dont think they will be able to cut the cost by 90+%.
Not within the next few years.

 

[WildTurkey]

I ride a motor bike and am so scared of this concept... I hope it sees motorbikers more than normal drivers do. It's bad enough as it is...

 

[Varine]

I ride a motor bike and am so scared of this concept... I hope it sees motorbikers more than normal drivers do. It's bad enough as it is...

I've been in like four accidents with motorcyclists and every one was their fault.

 

[tom_mai78101]

I ride a motor bike and am so scared of this concept... I hope it sees motorbikers more than normal drivers do. It's bad enough as it is...

This is the one thing Google may love to expand in their autonomous cars. Also, cyclist-geared!

 

[Varine]

Your link is fail.