What To Base An Auto-Cast, Initial And/Or DoT Damage Spell (With Debuff)

[WolfieeifloW]

Unlike my other thread, I now need an auto-cast spell, that has an initial and/or (It HAS to have a DoT, the initial damage is optional), adds onto the heroes auto-attack when off cooldown (Think Searing Arrows), and, finally, provides a debuff on the unit.

With that said, I've tried:
Poison Arrows; Which don't provide a debuff.
Poison; Which is passive.
Parasite; Which doesn't add onto attack.

Anyone know of a spell that has what I want?
I would, strongly, prefer not to trigger this spell.

 

[keychup]

how is "inner fire" with negative regeneration?

 

[WolfieeifloW]

Could work.
Although if I need bounty, kills made by Inner Fire wouldn't give bounty, AFAIK.
Let me test it.


EDIT: Ya, it doesn't give bounty.
I'll use it for now, since I don't have bounty in my map;
But I still need an ability that will work (And give bounty!).

 

[keychup]

Try Parasite with no summons
Shift-Enter then spacebar for the string.

 

[NeuroToxin]

Doom, shadow strike, poison bomb or whatever, (The alchemist uses it.)

 

[WolfieeifloW]

You missed the first condition I listed, twice.

Auto-cast

 

[keychup]

parasite "will" work.

 

[WolfieeifloW]

Hmm, Parasite requires the hero to just stand there, not be attacking.
I want something that just adds onto his attack when it's off cooldown (Searing Arrows, for instance).

I'll use it for now, since it's the best I've got;
But still looking for that perfect ability.


Added that it should just add onto his auto-attack (Think Searing Arrows).

 

[KaerfNomekop]

I don't think there's any other DoT spell, except for Parasite and Black Arrow. But those don't work on heroes, do they? So we need at least a simple trigger, accompanied with most probably searing arrows.

 

[Weep]

I want something that just adds onto his attack

Poison Arrows. Note that it only works for units which were originally a ranged unit before editing; it's buggy like that.

when it's off cooldown (Searing Arrows, for instance).

Uh-oh. All these autocast-on-attack abilities won't enter cooldown if the unit hadn't been ordered to attack (eg. if it auto-acquires a target); they are all buggy like that. Unless you're willing to get into workarounds (eg. trigger a direct attack order whenever a unit acquires a target; this breaks Hold Position), I would avoid wanting any on-attack spells with cooldowns.

 

[WolfieeifloW]

As stated in my first post:
Poison Arrows; Which don't provide a debuff.

At least for me, anyways.
Black Arrow doesn't do a DoT either, do they?

I guess I'll just have to trigger something, darnit

 

[dianamod27]

I just noticed that Black Arrow has data for "Damage Interval" and "Secondary Damage". Might want to look into it.

 

[WolfieeifloW]

I don't see those fields?

 

[Weep]

As stated in my first post:
Poison Arrows; Which don't provide a debuff.

At least for me, anyways.

Your unit is copied from a unit that was originally ranged, or not? (As mentioned when I suggested the ability.)

I don't have WC3 with me at the moment but I'm pretty sure it applies a buff; otherwise it wouldn't do damage over time...

 

[dianamod27]

I don't see those fields?

Uh, sorry, I can't either anymore, I thought I was on Black Arrow but apparently not. I wonder if that messed anything up on my map lol. Can't find what spell I was on instead either.

 

[WolfieeifloW]

Why doesn't this work!
I copied Dark Ranger.
Changed her to melee.
Made it based off Poison Arrows.
Gave it a new debuff.

Still doesn't apply the buff, and doesn't even do a DoT!

 

[Weep]

Why doesn't this work!
I copied Dark Ranger.
Changed her to melee.

Ah, I didn't know, but also the hero must have Missile attack type. :banghead:

You can still fake a melee attack with no missile art, 0 missile speed, and the usual melee range (it will even say range: Melee in game). Tested and working (but kludgish).

 

[keychup]

if that works the unit might still get affected by trueshot aura

 

[WolfieeifloW]

Now it's showing the poison debuff, even though I've changed it to my custom one, lol..
Maybe change the order strings?

 

[NoobImbaPro]

trigger it...