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Computers tend to be much more specialized than humans, but better at the tasks they are designed for.
That depends what kind of brain you meanAre you asking if I would give a brain to this "crappy" computer machine? In that case, why not?
Do I have to remember all the pi's numbers??I think we already have robots stronger/faster/better then the human body, and we probably aren't that far from putting a human brain into controlling such a body either, so it's not giving a crappy computer machine a brain, it's giving a brain a better body (or a person? is a working brain a person?) - next would be somehow getting the "human" brain to be able to "use" it's "infinite memory" such that it can actually remember something for more then 2 seconds without needing it to be "written" 100s of times (how many digits of pi can you memorize? 100? how many can a computer? and how easily can you/the computer do it?) - an apples to apples comparison isn't really possible
Do I have to remember all the pi's numbers??
Is that what matters??
Don't you know that you actually use the 3% of your brain's power??
Don't you know that you can unlock it up to 30%??
Have you seen a robot that can jump 4 meters high and survive??
Have you seen a robot playing piano or badminton??
Have you seen it solving a problem in 2+ ways??
Do you want something that is stronger than you??
Oh dear heheheFirecat, you still haven't responded to my first post. What is your opinion on it?
Nah. It isn't.. You can't compare with a real brain and a chip brain. And Just because something can mimic neural activity doesn't mean it can think Seriously!As you said, the brain is just a biological neural network(Although a very complex one) The fact that there are already machines that mimic this on a small scale just tells us that we're getting closer.
Varine said: Do I have to remember all the pi's numbers??
Way to avoid the point he's making.
Is that what matters??
To claim infinite memory, yes. What were you doing one year ago today and 10:37 AM?
Don't you know that you actually use the 3% of your brain's power??
That isn't really true,
Don't you know that you can unlock it up to 30%??
See above.
Have you seen a robot that can jump 4 meters high and survive??
Does a robot have to jump 4 meters high and survive? Is that what matters?
Have you seen a robot playing piano or badminton??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPYflSQpYe0
Have you seen it solving a problem in 2+ ways??
Why would it need to solve it in two ways when it can solve it in one?
Do you want something that is stronger than you??
Yes, yes I do want something stronger than me.
Another thought: I assume that none of you believe that a robot could ever be built that had true emotions. If it were possible to program a computer to have it's own cognitive thoughts and unique emotions, then it would also be possible to write an algorithm that always did the correct thing at the correct time to please our wives. If there is ever an algorithm that can search through every single law that my wife has made for me, cross reference it with all her by-laws and exceptions (some of which have their own by-laws and exceptions) and factor in the time of the month, etc to always be right, then humanity is saved!
Oh dear hehehe
Nah. It isn't.. You can't compare with a real brain and a chip brain. And Just because something can mimic neural activity doesn't mean it can think Seriously!
You see, a computer does nothing until you turns it on and inputs some command before It dose executes a programmed response. Right?
And does this ship have self awareness, jealousy, create myth, suffer from boredom.. etc hmm
So how would a computer become competitive with a human brain. eh? "Never be" And btw doctors/crazy scientist only have theories on how the human brain works, no proof.
Well, you see now why a Computers are stupid? Because you still have to tell them what to do.lollol
A computer is limited in its abilities. It is true that we can build a computer to compute anything we so desire it to; however, a computer could never desire to compute anything that it was not programmed to compute. Remember to think about a computer as a series of algorithms (the hardware is unimportant for the moment). Algorithms can be made to mimic things, associate things, etc, but they are hard-coded. There is no real true way to build an algorithm that is not hard coded to do whatever it is designed to do. You would essentially have to build an algorithm that builds its own unique and uninfluenced algorithms. To even conceive of how to program such a thing should hurt your brain because it's an extremely complex idea. Computers are bad at making choices. Humans neither make calculated choices 100% of the time, nor do we make completely random choices. We build computers to be predictable and assist with tasks that we cannot do quickly. To be human is to make mistakes and risks. Algorithms cannot do this.
*To claim infinite memory, yes. What were you doing one year ago today and 10:37 AM?
I was at home preparing myself for the beach. But there are also cameras that do this stuff.
Me: Don't you know that you actually use the 3% of your brain's power??
*That isn't really true
How do you know it? Have you opened any any book rather than twilight and harry potter?
*Does a robot have to jump 4 meters high and survive? Is that what matters?
He claimed they were better(overall?), faster and stronger, so I gave him a question-answer.
Me:Have you seen a robot playing piano or badminton??
*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPYflSQpYe0
Can he play this? It's better to see a robot playing piano or him, or another one pianist??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sZK4Hd28VA
*Yes, yes I do want something stronger than me
That isn't really true
*Why would it need to solve it in two ways when it can solve it in one?
When you seek simplicity where you mustn't do, someone needs you to be a undereducated.
That's pure nonsense. A computer still need to be coded into a program to learn or whatever you want to call it And don't forget human created the computer not on contrary.it's possible for the program to learn. This is called machine learning. This means the program can do stuff that isn't hard-coded into the program.
"create myth" but I am sure I could program a program that creates myths if that's what you're asking for.
How would it become competitive with the human brain? It already has better memory than any human being, "faster" brain in terms of calculations. It is not "smart" yet but it's smarter than 50 years ago. We're getting there, the question is just why.
That's pure nonsense. A computer still need to be coded into a program to learn or whatever you want to call it And don't forget human created the computer not on contrary.
Well, you see now why computers are still stupid? Probably, because a computer still wouldn't competitive with the human brain.lollol
That's pure nonsense. A computer still need to be coded into a program to learn or whatever you want to call it And don't forget human created the computer not on contrary.
Well, you see now why computers are still stupid? Probably, because a computer still wouldn't competitive with the human brain.lollol
They Just can't say it does mimic a human brain, because it doesn't at all. A machine is a machine not a living thing
So you can't really compare or make a chip or whatever and claim is a human brain in a computer or whatever. That's all
It moves by its own? If you leave it fall, it will understand that he break some of his parts and start it's propellers automatically?Sure, you were preparing for the beach. I'm sure you were. The point is that a computer doesn't forget and while it's human to forget, doesn't mean it's a good thing. Memory is just one of the points where computers exceeds humans.
When it comes to brain capacity, you attacked him personally instead of providing a proof of your statement. For the record, I tried googling for something like what you're suggesting but I found nothing interesting. No percentage numbers anyway.
I did find one from yahoo-answers that said that humans just use 10%(not 3) of their brain is a myth and that we use all of it. This however is not really a good source.
I've made a robot myself that can survive a fall from 4 meters. Not only that, but it can also fly. So yeah, it's faster and stronger than me. At least stronger in the sense that it can survive a 4 meter fall better than me. Also, when I say fall, that means the propellers are not spinning to soften the fall.
Sure, the robot pianist is not playing a song that is advanced as the one that you suggest. However, we are not talking about if robots are currently better than humans at all things, just if it's possible in the future. The fact that they can already play piano strongly suggest that they will be able to play piano better in the years to come.
If I want a robot stronger than me? Yes I do and so does Varine. I am sorry, but if you're trying to know what I want, you're obviously wrong. Don't tell US what our opinions are, because they are our opinions, not yours.
Just because a computer solves the problem in one way doesn't mean it is seeking simplicity. You are just using fancy words to make up for the fact that what you're saying is wrong. Also, I could see an AI solve problems in several ways with genetic algorithms so your point is still invalid.
It moves by its own? If you leave it fall, it will understand that he break some of his parts and start it's propellers automatically?
So do you think that it is better than you? Have you seen a man hunted from a dog and jump a 4 meter high wall ?? I saw it live.
I was at home preparing myself for the beach. But there are also cameras that do this stuff.
How do you know it? Have you opened any any book rather than twilight and harry potter?
He claimed they were better(overall?), faster and stronger, so I gave him a question-answer.
Can he play this? It's better to see a robot playing piano or him, or another one pianist??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sZK4Hd28VA
That isn't really true
When you seek simplicity where you mustn't do, someone needs you to be a undereducated.
Not good enough. What beach? What were you wearing? What color? What car were you planning on taking? Who else was there? Also you're not doing a very good job arguing your side already.
I know it's not true because I'm not a moron.
It's not clever as it has no human brain capabilities. That's allSiretu: What is your point?